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  • FirstTimer
    Freeman Error

    • Feb 2009
    • 18729

    #76
    Originally posted by ralaw
    The way I see it is if OSU’s schedule is that much tougher than Alabama
    It was. 6th vs 23rd according to Sagarin.

    The computers no longer take into account SOS I believe.

    NAHSTE can help me on that.

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    • ralaw
      Posts too much
      • Feb 2009
      • 6663

      #77
      Originally posted by FirstTimer
      Alabama didn't need a lot of help. They barely fell in the polling. They needed Okie St to lose.

      That's it.

      Semantics
      Point being they had help and after the loss were not in the driver's seat to the National Championsip.

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      • ralaw
        Posts too much
        • Feb 2009
        • 6663

        #78
        Originally posted by FirstTimer
        It was. 6th vs 23rd according to Sagarin.

        The computers no longer take into account SOS I believe.

        NAHSTE can help me on that.
        Why don’t they include SOS? That makes no sense to me.

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        • FirstTimer
          Freeman Error

          • Feb 2009
          • 18729

          #79
          Originally posted by ralaw
          Why don’t they include SOS? That makes no sense to me.
          They still might.

          I don't know.

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          • NAHSTE
            Probably owns the site
            • Feb 2009
            • 22233

            #80
            Originally posted by FirstTimer
            They still might.

            I don't know.
            I believe all the computer polls still factor in SOS, but only a few of them still factor in margin of victory. Those polls are the ones who had Bama listed above OSU.

            This current system rewards teams for playing shitty OOC schedules. Bama is case in point.

            They are piggybacking off of the tough schedule LSU played. Since LSU is clearly the best team, having proven it against the best teams from three different conferences and three different time zones, and Alabama was the closest to not losing to LSU, then clearly Alabama is the second best team.

            Never mind that Alabama's other games included 8 opponents with .500 or worse records.

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            • NAHSTE
              Probably owns the site
              • Feb 2009
              • 22233

              #81
              Another example of this system (or any system we could devise) rewarding teams for unambitious OOC scheduling:

              If this were a 4-team playoff, Stanford would be in and Oregon would not. The difference? Oregon played a top 5 team out of conference and lost.

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              • ZoneBlitz
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                • Feb 2009
                • 1844

                #82
                Originally posted by FirstTimer
                And this is why polling is retarded. Are we honestly to believe that if a football goes 6 more inches to the inside of the goal post at the end of regulation in Ames that all of a sudden Okie St is clearly the 2nd best team in the country? Okie St lost on the road in overtime by literally inches.
                And thats also how close Alabama lost to LSU, the undisputed #1.

                If Okie State is deserving of #2, their game vs Iowa State shouldnt have came down to inches.

                I can see both sides of the argument, its not all one-sided like everyone here believes.

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                • FirstTimer
                  Freeman Error

                  • Feb 2009
                  • 18729

                  #83
                  Originally posted by ZoneBlitz
                  And thats also how close Alabama lost to LSU, the undisputed #1.
                  No it's not.

                  Alabama's kickers were no where close on pretty much all of their attempts.

                  Including the knuckling shit in OT.

                  Okie St's FG attempt at the end of OT went literally right over the post.

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                  • NAHSTE
                    Probably owns the site
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 22233

                    #84
                    Originally posted by ZoneBlitz
                    And thats also how close Alabama lost to LSU, the undisputed #1.
                    LOL at this, Alabama missed three field goals from beyond 45 yards. They had three snaps inside the red zone all game. LOL at comparing a missed chip shot by Okie State (literally inches wide) to the Bama possessions which ended nowhere near the end zone and with hopeless FG attempts falling three or four entire feet under the cross bar.

                    But that is also really stupid criteria with which to use. WHO CAME CLOSER TO NOT LOSING?!?! DURR.

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                    • ZoneBlitz
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                      • Feb 2009
                      • 1844

                      #85
                      Originally posted by NAHSTE
                      LOL at this, Alabama missed three field goals from beyond 45 yards. They had three snaps inside the red zone all game. LOL at comparing a missed chip shot by Okie State (literally inches wide) to the Bama possessions which ended nowhere near the end zone and with hopeless FG attempts falling three or four entire feet under the cross bar.

                      But that is also really stupid criteria with which to use. WHO CAME CLOSER TO NOT LOSING?!?! DURR.
                      LOL @ analyzing the accuracy & distance of the field goals and thinking that was my point. I simply meant that both games were decided by a FG, which means a single play in either game could've changed the outcome.

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