Is it time to just throw James Harrison out of the league?

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  • NAHSTE
    Probably owns the site
    • Feb 2009
    • 22233

    Originally posted by DSpydr84
    Yes and yes, and it's a penalty, yes. "Dirty", though? He's running through contact. He pushes McCoy to the ground. His helmet caught McCoy's jaw, but most of the impact was from the neck down. It just looks bad because any impact with the helmet causes a huge whiplash (which is why people use it in the first place).

    This is a big hit to me, nothing more. I don't see a guy that should be removed from the league at all here.
















    Yeah, I'm sure his forearms are what caused the concussion too.

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    • SethMode
      Master of Mysticism
      • Feb 2009
      • 5754

      Originally posted by FirstTimer
      You act as though it's news that Jake is a retard.
      Well, in fairness, I was referring to DSpydr84's posts.

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      • FirstTimer
        Freeman Error

        • Feb 2009
        • 18729

        Originally posted by DSpydr84
        ? He's running through contact.
        Which in no way requires him to drop the crown of his helmet.

        You again have no point in defending this.
        Originally posted by DSpydr84
        He pushes McCoy to the ground.

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        • FirstTimer
          Freeman Error

          • Feb 2009
          • 18729

          Originally posted by SethMode
          Well, in fairness, I was referring to DSpydr84's posts.
          Please see his most recent post.

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          • DSpydr84
            I need a sub
            • Oct 2008
            • 2605

            Originally posted by NAHSTE



            Yeah, I'm sure his forearms are what caused the concussion too.
            Doesn't take a lot to get a concussion when you get hit in the sweet spot.

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            • kyhadley
              Carefree
              • Oct 2008
              • 6796

              Originally posted by DSpydr84
              Yes and yes, and it's a penalty, yes. "Dirty", though? He's running through contact. He pushes McCoy to the ground. His helmet caught McCoy's jaw, but most of the impact was from the neck down. It just looks bad because any impact with the helmet causes a huge whiplash (which is why people use it in the first place).

              This is a big hit to me, nothing more. I don't see a guy that should be removed from the league at all here.
              I just don't know how you could possibly see this as "running through contact". As I've posted he could have avoided the helmet to helmet entirely if he had just attempted to pull up. He had plenty of time. He chose not to, and should be punished severely for reasons that I've stated multiple times in this thread and you've chosen to ignore.

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              • SethMode
                Master of Mysticism
                • Feb 2009
                • 5754

                Originally posted by FirstTimer
                Please see his most recent post.
                Eh...I think the discussion is getting a little diluted at this point...it's a pile on now against him. I think all he's saying is that he doesn't think it was a dirty hit, and arguably wasn't an illegal one either. Obviously there is room to disagree, I just don't understand why people need to be hateful about it too. Either way, I don't care, just drunk and trolling.

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                • FirstTimer
                  Freeman Error

                  • Feb 2009
                  • 18729

                  Originally posted by SethMode
                  Eh...I think the discussion is getting a little diluted at this point...it's a pile on now against him. I think all he's saying is that he doesn't think it was a dirty hit, and arguably wasn't an illegal one either. Obviously there is room to disagree, I just don't understand why people need to be hateful about it too. Either way, I don't care, just drunk and trolling.
                  Harrison "pushed McCoy to the ground"?


                  :megawhoner:

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                  • kyhadley
                    Carefree
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 6796

                    I am not trying to pile on anyone right now. I am advocating more strict rules when it comes to helmet to helmet contact regardless of player because of the extraordinarily serious ramifications that come from it and using Harrison as an example (because he is the latest and greatest example) for why things need to change if the NFL cares the slightest about the livelihood of their players.

                    Also, cheers.

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                    • DSpydr84
                      I need a sub
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 2605

                      Originally posted by kyhadley
                      I just don't know how you could possibly see this as "running through contact". As I've posted he could have avoided the helmet to helmet entirely if he had just attempted to pull up. He had plenty of time. He chose not to, and should be punished severely for reasons that I've stated multiple times in this thread and you've chosen to ignore.
                      He had plenty of time on video to us. He's playing a game at full speed. I can't speak for him, but I'm sure it's a lot different.

                      Originally posted by SethMode
                      Eh...I think the discussion is getting a little diluted at this point...it's a pile on now against him. I think all he's saying is that he doesn't think it was a dirty hit, and arguably wasn't an illegal one either. Obviously there is room to disagree, I just don't understand why people need to be hateful about it too. Either way, I don't care, just drunk and trolling.
                      I do this all the time man. I take a stance against something controversial for my own entertainment and let the groan bombs fly. I'm like Barry Sanders... leading the league in negative rep but still getting mine.

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                      • SethMode
                        Master of Mysticism
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 5754

                        Originally posted by glenwillett
                        Please explain how.
                        Really? I guess the easiest way to respond would be to say "professional sports does not equal corporate America".

                        Why even compare the two?

                        I don't think it's okay that exceptions are made for athletes, but that doesn't mean that exceptions AREN'T made for athletes.

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                        • kyhadley
                          Carefree
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 6796

                          Originally posted by DSpydr84
                          He had plenty of time on video to us. He's playing a game at full speed. I can't speak for him, but I'm sure it's a lot different.
                          I disagree. I watched it at full speed multiple times and there was enough time to not do what he did. Reaction times are not going to change regardless of location or emotion or anything for that matter. He had time to try to pull up if he wanted to (which he clearly didn't). And how does he get the benefit of the doubt anyways? If anything he should get the benefit of guilt.

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                          • SethMode
                            Master of Mysticism
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 5754

                            Originally posted by FirstTimer
                            Harrison "pushed McCoy to the ground"?


                            :megawhoner:
                            I didn't say that, I just think you're picking a fight right now *gasp! NEVER!* ;)

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                            • kyhadley
                              Carefree
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 6796

                              Originally posted by DSpydr84
                              I do this all the time man. I take a stance against something controversial for my own entertainment and let the groan bombs fly. I'm like Barry Sanders... leading the league in negative rep but still getting mine.
                              Well you're not really getting yours because you just look idiotic.

                              Taking the wrong stance for the sake of it itself just makes you look even dumber. I don't grown people for their opinion but you seem pretty masochistic about it so I just might have to.

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                              • FirstTimer
                                Freeman Error

                                • Feb 2009
                                • 18729

                                Originally posted by SethMode
                                I didn't say that, I just think you're picking a fight right now *gasp! NEVER!* ;)
                                I didn't say you did.


                                :confused:

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