Is it time to just throw James Harrison out of the league?

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  • DSpydr84
    I need a sub
    • Oct 2008
    • 2605

    #91
    Originally posted by FirstTimer
    Such as who?
    My point being he hasn't done that much. Look at the videos above.

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    • FirstTimer
      Freeman Error

      • Feb 2009
      • 18729

      #92
      Originally posted by DSpydr84
      My point being he hasn't done that much. Look at the videos above.
      No. Qualify what you said.

      You said most players do this.

      Show it.

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      • kyhadley
        Carefree
        • Oct 2008
        • 6796

        #93
        Originally posted by DSpydr84
        My point being he hasn't done that much. Look at the videos above.
        Doing just "that much" is more than enough when it comes to brain injuries. This is a rare time when zero tolerance should be applied.

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        • Warner2BruceTD
          2011 Poster Of The Year
          • Mar 2009
          • 26142

          #94
          Originally posted by kyhadley
          You are so missing my point.

          The NFL has been terrible about concussions and TBI. Most players doing just as much and getting away with it is just as bad and should also be reprimanded. This is not a matter of sport, but a matter of quality of life. The NFL has improved on this issue in the past few years (hello public relations), but in my well-informed opinion still does not do nearly enough to prevent these life-threatening hits. Hits like this can easily be avoided through technique and coaching. "It happens" or "itss a violent sport" are not nearly good enough excuses. The quality of life of NFL players is at stake here. How is that not important enough to make this stop?
          And i've got bad news for the people who believe football is a violent sport.

          The NFL does not want it to be a violent sport, which is why they've been taking these measures to removes the violent aspects of the game.

          It's a physical sport, there is a difference.

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          • DSpydr84
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            • Oct 2008
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            #95
            Originally posted by FirstTimer
            No. Qualify what you said.

            You said most players do this.

            Show it.
            lol... you want me to show you helmet to helmet hits?

            [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F43fQTCQf0"]nfl helmet to helmet hits - YouTube[/ame]

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            • kyhadley
              Carefree
              • Oct 2008
              • 6796

              #96
              Originally posted by Houstonnino
              I can't help but feel that your logic is being wasted.
              I think you are right.

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              • Obst
                RIP West
                • Oct 2008
                • 4182

                #97
                Originally posted by DSpydr84
                lol... you want me to show you helmet to helmet hits?

                nfl helmet to helmet hits - YouTube
                So an NCAA game and pee wee practice, plus a James Harrison hit. Good evidence that everyone in the NFL has had multiple helmet to helmet hits.

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                • DSpydr84
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                  • Oct 2008
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by kyhadley
                  You are so missing my point.

                  The NFL has been terrible about concussions and TBI. Most players doing just as much and getting away with it is just as bad and should also be reprimanded. This is not a matter of sport, but a matter of quality of life. The NFL has improved on this issue in the past few years (hello public relations), but in my well-informed opinion still does not do nearly enough to prevent these life-threatening hits. Hits like this can easily be avoided through technique and coaching. "It happens" or "itss a violent sport" are not nearly good enough excuses. The quality of life of NFL players is at stake here. How is that not important enough to make this stop?
                  I agree with you 100%, my issue I guess is how they would follow through with it. As much as I don't want to say it, it is a part of the game.

                  Should you remove all first time offenders, no questions asked? Should you remove a player that gives someone a concussion but within the rules? Should you remove anyone who hits with the helmet, offensive, defensive, in a pile, open field, etc.? It's just too grey to make it a black and white rule.

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                  • DSpydr84
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                    • Oct 2008
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Obst
                    So an NCAA game and pee wee practice, plus a James Harrison hit. Good evidence that everyone in the NFL has had multiple helmet to helmet hits.
                    Do you even watch football? There's a helmet to helmet penalty every week. I apologize for not personally making a video montage.

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                    • SethMode
                      Master of Mysticism
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 5754

                      Originally posted by glenwillett
                      At some point he has to go.

                      If I went to work and refused to comply with my employers rules I would be gone and 99.9% of the world would be just fine with it. Don't see why exceptions should be made in this instance.
                      Don't want to sound like I'm pro Harrison here, but that is a pretty poor comparison.

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                      • FirstTimer
                        Freeman Error

                        • Feb 2009
                        • 18729

                        Originally posted by DSpydr84
                        Do you even watch football? There's a helmet to helmet penalty every week. I apologize for not personally making a video montage.
                        :obama:

                        Who makes a habitual routine of it like Harrison.

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                        • DSpydr84
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                          • Oct 2008
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                          Originally posted by FirstTimer
                          :obama:

                          Who makes a habitual routine of it like Harrison.
                          :obama:

                          Show me more than two hits of Harrison's that were bad.

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                          • celtsxpatsxsox
                            Redsox
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 3310

                            Originally posted by DSpydr84
                            I agree with you 100%, my issue I guess is how they would follow through with it. As much as I don't want to say it, it is a part of the game.

                            Should you remove all first time offenders, no questions asked? Should you remove a player that gives someone a concussion but within the rules? Should you remove anyone who hits with the helmet, offensive, defensive, in a pile, open field, etc.? It's just too grey to make it a black and white rule.
                            How? A defender who hits a defenseless player (QB in the act of throwing, Receiver in the act of catching...etc) helmet to helmet is going to get a penalty and probably a fine. Not sure what is so difficult to understand.

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                            • DSpydr84
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                              • Oct 2008
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                              Originally posted by celtsxpatsxsox
                              How? A defender who hits a defenseless player (QB in the act of throwing, Receiver in the act of catching...etc) helmet to helmet is going to get a penalty and probably a fine. Not sure what is so difficult to understand.
                              Holy shit, he's talking about removing players from the league.

                              I gotta get outta here, man.

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                              • FirstTimer
                                Freeman Error

                                • Feb 2009
                                • 18729

                                Originally posted by DSpydr84
                                :obama:

                                Show me more than two hits of Harrison's that were bad.
                                You've got to be fucking kidding me right?

                                Earth to tard..it's not JUST about helmet to helmet hits with him.

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