Eli Manning...

[Len B]

This thread is full of win.

[FirstTimer]

Hall of Famer

[FedEx227]

Not sure if you saw the Giants final drive or not, you might have been crunching numbers with fellow quasi-stat fruit pop FedEx to discuss greatness at the kids table, but over here at the grown folks table, greatness is determined by achieving great things and doing great things...winning and losing the Super Bowl is the difference between achieving and not achieving great things, throwing that pass to Mario Manningham in this game, in his first Super Bowl, the pass to Tyree...great things...the end result matters, regardless of how its determined and undermining it by who has the ball last, is silly and it couples in with this new found internet idea to try to outsmart yourself in discussing greatness that's ruining baseball discussions involving similar matters. You're taking your 5m morning commute by hovercraft.

And using ridiculously small sample sizes to dictate your opinions. If Welker doesn't drop a pass, the same people are doing the "IS TOM BRADY THE BEST EVER?".

How about we just look at someones entire body of work?

[DJ Rhude]

Someone said that was the best throw ever by Eli

Even an Eli homer like myself is going to have to take the high road on that one.....hard to top Big Ben to Holmes FTSBW

[Liquidrob]

That's my point, what don't you understand? lol

Bottom line is opposing fans feel like he gets more credit than he deserves, so when they have an opportunity to say it's Brady's fault they go insanely overboard.

Brady got bailed out vs. Baltimore and shouldn't have even been here this year, and then he got fucked this week vs. Giants. It goes both ways.

how did Brady get 'fucked'

Brady did nothing after the drive in the 3rd, you're really putting it on Welker to make that catch every time?

It's not like Brady had a Doug Williams like 2nd and put up 30+ points, he got them 17 and than nothing for pretty much the 2nd half of the game minus the first drive

[Sharkweather]

How about we just look at someones entire body of work?

Only games played in February matter.

[Warner2BruceTD]

And using ridiculously small sample sizes to dictate your opinions. If Welker doesn't drop a pass, the same people are doing the "IS TOMY BRADY THE BEST EVER?".

How about we just look at someones entire body of work?

Bro, Eli is on pace for Top 15 in yards.

TOP 15, dude.

[DSpydr84]

The throw wasn't good or bad, it was just weird (referring to Welker's drop).

Brady saw Welker wide open and kinda lobbed it in there. I'm not sure Welker was expecting that type of throw. It seemed like it took forever to get there.

I drop the ball all the fucking time when that happens (mainly because I suck) because you're expecting to be hit or you think the ball will get there sooner. My guess is Welker ran that route a million times and just wasn't ready for that type of ball.

[Len B]

Just so everyone here is in agreement.

This is what the Greatest of All Time Throws should look like:





And this is what choke artists throws should look like:

[EmpireWF]

This thread is interesting.

One level is the original story. Larry cements Eli as a HOFer b/c of XLVI. W2B says the events of the 4th quarter of XLVI impacting it to any degree is laughable.

The other level is then people talking about whether Eli is a HOFer with the lense of his entire career to date.

Then there's the people piling on Brady.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Just so everyone here is in agreement.

This is what the Greatest of All Time Throws should look like:





And this is what choke artists throws should look like:

That play is called THE CATCH...not THE THROW, dumbass.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Just so everyone here is in agreement.

This is what the Greatest of All Time Throws should look like:





And this is what choke artists throws should look like:

Great post.

With the margin between winning and losing being so small in these games, it's amazing to me how people give so much credit to the winning QB's and so much blame to the losing QB's, with so little regard to the overall performance and the actions of the other players. It really is astounding.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

No Brucey, that was an awful post.

[Liquidrob]

What can I say, Montana has that clutch touch, the ball was thrown like pillow

Clark just had to go up and get it while running towards the pass, Welker had to turn around and boogie down for Tom

Brady isnt even Joe Montanya

[Len B]

That play is called THE CATCH...not THE THROW, dumbass.

I wasn't referring to the label of the play, MORAN! G.O.A.T is what I was saying.