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  • tigstah
    Mr. Casual Gamer
    • Mar 2009
    • 2406

    #46
    Originally posted by ralaw
    Yeah, that Redskins rumor has been the hot topic here in Redskins nation. IMO the Skins need to do something.
    the skins dont need to make a move. they have other issues in the secondary, receiver and oline.

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    • s@ppisgod
      No longer a noob
      • Apr 2011
      • 1032

      #47
      Originally posted by OnlyOneBeerLeft
      I think Reiff could jump into top 5... and I have an odd feeling that Claiborne will be out of it.
      I'd bet the house against it. Top 3 are going to be Luck/Griffin/Kalil. Then the Browns take Claiborne/Richardson/Blackmon, because they have LT covered with Joe Thomas. Then the Bucs take Claiborne/Richardson/Blackmon, because they have LT covered with Penn. LT isn't a need in Tampa. RT is, but who spends a top 5 pick on a RT? Nobody. Reiff isn't a top 5 prospect anyway.

      Originally posted by BigBucs
      Yea, I googled Manningham to the Bucs after I read your previous post, I havent been up on our offseason plans. I totally expect to land some FA's land with uur GM, Mark Dominick, feeling the heat after cleaning house and seemingly scrapping the "build through the draft and disregard FA" approach. With you having to spend a certain amount and us having a bunch of money we really dont have a choice but to pick up some veterans. Hope we can land Brandon Carr.
      We're gonna load out pockets with 2nd tier FAs this year. We don't give enough of a signing bonus to attract big time FAs. We lost out on Fat Albert because we offered him $100 mil with no signing bonus. We signed Black and Davin with guaranteed YEARS to start the contract, with no signing bonus. Regardless of Dom realizing the error of his ways, we still need to give out signing bonuses to get FAs here. That comes out of the Glazers' pocket, and they aren't mandated by the league to spend anything, like they are with cap space. So they can continue to be tightwad bastards, and we'll get all the 20th-50th best players on the market that we can handle.

      Originally posted by FirstTimer
      Doubt it.

      They will get a couple firsts and a third.

      By so openly shopping the pick they are actually devaluing it.

      "We don't want to draft here, please give us MOAR picks" doesn't seem like a great strategy to me.

      If Blackmon runs like shit then the pick becomes even less valuable.
      I couldn't disagree more. They don't stand to gain anything by letting teams think they could stay at #2. They won't take Griffin there, so who among Cleveland/Washington/Miami/Seattle, etc would care? By letting it be known that they are shopping the pick, it creates an illusion that Cleveland is bidding against Washington or Miami, even if they aren't. It doesn't make their leverage any LESS valuable, because the leverage isn't the pick. It's Griffin being a 100x better option than over-paying for Flynn and praying he's good outside of GB or drafting shit-ass Tannehill and acting like he has similar upside. There's MAYBE 3 good options at QB this off-season: Griffin, Flynn, and Manning. Luck being already spoken for. There's more than 3 teams that really need a QB. So it puts the pressure on to get Griffin.

      And again, Floyd (as you of all people should know) has put up a very strong Combine. After him, Hill put up a huge Combine, Randle has become a hot name, Sanu is out there. It shouldn't be Blackmon or bust for them. They could get Floyd and a 2nd this year, and a 1st/3rd next year. The drop-off from Blackmon to Floyd isn't much, and they can still get a nice package just because a team doesn't want to lose Griffin to another team. Their leverage should in no way be tied to Blackmon's stock, and if he runs a bad time, he could fall further, and open them up to be more able to risk him dropping to the Skins pick or the Dolphins pick.

      Griffin has solidified his worth to teams interested in a QB. That's all the Rams need at this point. They'll get a good haul, and have options. Nothing that they say at this point can lessen any of those things.

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      • Hasselbeck
        Jus' bout dat action boss
        • Feb 2009
        • 6175

        #48
        Originally posted by EmpireWF
        I can see the Skins being more willing than anyone else to five up two first rounders and two or three additional picks to get RG3.

        I'm torn about it though. On the one hand, he could be their franchise QB for the next ten years which is not good. We've come to expect them being malcontent with their signal caller (the fact Grossman beat the Giants twice this year notwithstanding).

        On the other hand, them sending away a significant group of picks to St. Louis would almost certainly guarantee them being relatively shit the next couple seasons....with Eli in his prime.

        Make it happen I guess. Plus, St. Louis with all these picks should be able to compete right away with Seattle.
        Fixed for accurateness in 2012.
        Originally posted by ram29jackson
        I already said months ago that Seattle wasn't winning any SB

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        • Hasselbeck
          Jus' bout dat action boss
          • Feb 2009
          • 6175

          #49
          Related to the thread.. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Rams unload this thing in the next couple of weeks.. when Matt Flynn and Peyton Manning hit the market, that's going to drive the price down - especially if Flynn wound up in Cleveland and Manning wound up in Miami.

          The Rams need to take the buzz of Griffin's combine and cash in immediately.
          Originally posted by ram29jackson
          I already said months ago that Seattle wasn't winning any SB

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          • Hasselbeck
            Jus' bout dat action boss
            • Feb 2009
            • 6175

            #50
            Originally posted by ram29jackson
            screw this...

            the Rams should draft RG3 and see who comes out on top in camp or let RG on the bench for a year ,theres no such thing as too many QBs,take the chance,make the bet,let it ride, see who earns the spot,who's really better..and then draft some linemen, let the skill positions take care of themselves if these QBs are worth a damn
            You're seriously one of the worst posters I've ever come across in message board history.
            Originally posted by ram29jackson
            I already said months ago that Seattle wasn't winning any SB

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            • Virix
              I see you
              • Nov 2008
              • 3308

              #51
              Originally posted by ram29jackson
              ...and I hear Cleveland in interested, so your theory that teams who already drafted young QBs and paid big bucks to them and shouldnt bother is bullshit


              Colt McCoy was a 3rd round pick and is making less than 1 million a year.

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              • Senser81
                VSN Poster of the Year
                • Feb 2009
                • 12804

                #52
                Originally posted by Hasselbeck
                You're seriously one of the worst posters I've ever come across in message board history.
                Ram29jackson is the living embodiment of the phrase "a broken clock is right twice a day".

                It seems like for every logical post he makes, he follows it up with 719 posts that are utter rubbish.

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                • ram29jackson
                  Noob
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 0

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Sharkweather
                  A six-year/$76M contract ($50M guaranteed)

                  or

                  A four-year/$5M contract ($1.07M guaranteed)

                  troll, troll, troll your boat...
                  Originally posted by Hasselbeck
                  You're seriously one of the worst posters I've ever come across in message board history.
                  no, youre just a fool who cant think for himself and goes with repeated typical junk thinking its the law for things to do in sports.

                  Originally posted by The HNIC


                  Colt McCoy was a 3rd round pick and is making less than 1 million a year.


                  no trolling here boys. I'm well aware it may never happen..but when it comes to a position like QB and a chance at getting someone who may become really good at the position, you go for broke..sometimes you have to risk blowing it..theres teams that thought they had what they needed and passed on the Marino's and Jordans of the world because logic said not to bother....nope i'm the best poster because I think for myself, unlike you bandwagon jumpers who think they know anything about running a team...have a nice day

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                  • EmpireWF
                    Giants in the Super Bowl
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 24082

                    #54
                    Explain why Jeff Fisher would force his team to eat a $18 million cap hit right now.


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                    • ram29jackson
                      Noob
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 0

                      #55
                      Originally posted by EmpireWF
                      Explain why Jeff Fisher would force his team to eat a $18 million cap hit right now.
                      LOL this wouldnt be a Jeff F decision,..he's been nothing without McNair...that has nothing to do with anything, I just thought I'd say that LOL

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                      • EmpireWF
                        Giants in the Super Bowl
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 24082

                        #56
                        Originally posted by ram29jackson
                        LOL this wouldnt be a Jeff F decision,..he's been nothing without McNair...that has nothing to do with anything, I just thought I'd say that LOL
                        Okay then.

                        Why would the general manager (who is a puppet of Fisher, I presume) going to eat $18 million right now?


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                        • ram29jackson
                          Noob
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 0

                          #57
                          Originally posted by EmpireWF
                          Okay then.

                          Why would the general manager (who is a puppet of Fisher, I presume) going to eat $18 million right now?
                          O-w-n-e-r

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