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  • FedEx227
    Delivers
    • Mar 2009
    • 10454

    Originally posted by Senser81
    Don't quite get the point of the article. Do bounties make the game more dangerous? Can you really say one way or another? And if there is the slightest chance that bounties do make the game more dangerous, then shouldn't the NFL try to legislate it?

    The article makes it seem as if the league office is being hypocritical, but thats a very elementary way of viewing things. The NFL can't have bounties, because its too easy to injure a QB (for example). If the league starts losing its Brett Favre's and Kurt Warner's to bounty-induced injuries, then the NFL product itself is going to resemble the XFL, with terrible offenses and the only exciting moments being produced by the steal-the-bacon coin flip.
    I think the author wants people to realize that no matter what you do at it's core football is an extremely violent game that destroys and kills it's players whether there are bounties or not.

    To be fair though, my opinion is that bounties are still awful since it's maddening to ignore that giving monetary benefits to intentionally injure someone is a huge liability. I think at it's core it's a violent game and you won't escape that. The game itself will never be safe.
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    • Senser81
      VSN Poster of the Year
      • Feb 2009
      • 12804

      Originally posted by DSpydr84
      So you don't think the game in inherently violent?

      Again, I'm not saying it's acceptable. That's one of the reasons I like it, but it doesn't make it right. But you even said yourself that these things happened in the past and their happening again today. AGAIN, I AM NOT THROWING MY HANDS IN THE AIR SAYING "LET IT GO". What I'm saying is if they want these things to change, the game needs to be played in a different manner. That's it. And it doesn't bother me which way they choose to go, but if they think they can put a stop to CERTAIN PLAYERS (NOT EVERYONE IN THE LEAGUE) trying to hurt other players and/or betting on performances, I don't think they can under the current framework of the game. Every article being posted says this happens everywhere (although W2B is probably correct saying it wasn't nearly to the level of New Orleans). The culture of the game promotes it. Either that changes, or this stuff keeps happening.

      To me, I couldn't care less if they kept the game how it is and "bounties" (of some sort) continued. It really doesn't affect me, I don't know these guys, I just watch the game. Their long-term health isn't my concern, sorry if that sounds cold. But the NFL is foolish if they think anything that happens here will stop it forever, unless the rules of the game are different.
      Cliffnotes version of this post: Help! Help! I'm being repressed!

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      • Senser81
        VSN Poster of the Year
        • Feb 2009
        • 12804

        Originally posted by ZoneBlitz
        This is senser-speak for "i have nothing to counter with".
        This is zoneblitz-speak for "no, I won't".

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        • ZoneBlitz
          .
          • Feb 2009
          • 1844

          Originally posted by Senser81
          This is zoneblitz-speak for "no, I won't".
          It takes alot for you to not respond to a post, so ill take that as you accepting defeat. Your posting slump continues.

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          • Senser81
            VSN Poster of the Year
            • Feb 2009
            • 12804

            Originally posted by DSpydr84
            So you don't think the game in inherently violent?
            Me: The game is violent enough as it is...the NFL doesn't need to be complicit with bounties for injuring players. They need to punish those who indulge in bounties.

            DSpydr84: What? You don't think the game is inherently violent?

            Me:

            ARE

            YOU

            FUCKING

            RETARDED

            ?????????????

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            • dope
              Allons-y!
              • Feb 2009
              • 2096

              Originally posted by Senser81
              Cliffnotes version of this post: Help! Help! I'm being repressed!


              all i've got to offer this fine thread

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              • MrBill
                Billy Brewer Sucks Penis
                • Feb 2009
                • 0

                All "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" references must be thanked

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                • ZoneBlitz
                  .
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 1844

                  Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                  it is entirely possible to attempt to injure an opposing player with "a good, clean, legal hit"
                  So what? If the hit is good & clean & legal, whats wrong with it?

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                  • Juggernaut
                    Sitting on the Sidelines
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 5670

                    Originally posted by ZoneBlitz
                    I dont have the stats but i bet the Saints opponents injury rate was the same as every other team.
                    I'd actually want to see those stats.

                    Originally posted by FedEx227
                    I think the author wants people to realize that no matter what you do at it's core football is an extremely violent game that destroys and kills it's players whether there are bounties or not.

                    To be fair though, my opinion is that bounties are still awful since it's maddening to ignore that giving monetary benefits to intentionally injure someone is a huge liability. I think at it's core it's a violent game and you won't escape that. The game itself will never be safe.
                    Exactly sums up my opinion on this matter.

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                    • FedEx227
                      Delivers
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 10454

                      Some people can watch the modern gladiator sport and be perfectly okay knowing these guys are killing themselves. I personally can't, but I totally understand why people can and why people enjoy it.
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                      • Primetime
                        Thank You Prince
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 17526

                        Everyone that has viewed this thread (including myself) is now dumber for having done so.

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                        • ralaw
                          Posts too much
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 6663

                          Originally posted by FedEx227
                          I think the author wants people to realize that no matter what you do at it's core football is an extremely violent game that destroys and kills it's players whether there are bounties or not.

                          To be fair though, my opinion is that bounties are still awful since it's maddening to ignore that giving monetary benefits to intentionally injure someone is a huge liability. I think at it's core it's a violent game and you won't escape that. The game itself will never be safe.
                          ...and everyone said Amen.....now let's all just step away.

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                          • FedEx227
                            Delivers
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 10454

                            Probably won't be in the NFL forum for another 9 months.

                            It's been a ride.
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                            • FirstTimer
                              Freeman Error

                              • Feb 2009
                              • 18729

                              Originally posted by FedEx227
                              Probably won't be in the NFL forum for another 9 months.

                              It's been a ride.
                              That's what she said.

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                              • FedEx227
                                Delivers
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 10454

                                Best 45 seconds of her life.
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