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  • Bear Pand
    RIP Indy Colts
    • Feb 2009
    • 5945

    #16
    Originally posted by BrntO4Life
    I strongly disagree with everything you've said. If FCS can do it, so can FBS. If CBB can do it, so can the FBS.

    Give me 32 teams. Take all the conference winners, plus a number of at-large teams chosen by a committee and let's fucking rock for 5 weeks of FBS Football. Cut the regular season down to 10 games if you have to. We need this kind of tourney.
    This is why I can't stand a lot of the BCS hate, because people have absolutely brutal playoff ideas. What we have now > 32 team playoff.

    It's inevitable that whenver college football does get a playoff people will just push for it to be too large from the start, or constantly push for expansion just cause.

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    • Warner2BruceTD
      2011 Poster Of The Year
      • Mar 2009
      • 26142

      #17
      Originally posted by JeremyHight
      Ya, we all want the great college basketball regular season. Remind Washington, who won the regular season PAC-12 title this year, just how sweet and important the college basketball regular season is.
      I would argue that the CBB regular season is more important than the CFB, and I would win that argument with minimal effort.

      The two great myths in sports...

      -College football, every game counts! (almost none of them do)

      -College basketball, meaningless regular season. (nearly every game matters)

      A CFB playoff would make the regular season far more intense and meaningful than the current system, because more than three or four teams would be playing for something beyond Week 6.

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      • Warner2BruceTD
        2011 Poster Of The Year
        • Mar 2009
        • 26142

        #18
        oh, and the clever schizophrenia in this thread is tremendous

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        • BrntO4Life
          My Aunt Ida Smokes.
          • Mar 2009
          • 6866

          #19
          Originally posted by Bear Pand
          This is why I can't stand a lot of the BCS hate, because people have absolutely brutal playoff ideas. What we have now > 32 team playoff.

          It's inevitable that whenver college football does get a playoff people will just push for it to be too large from the start, or constantly push for expansion just cause.
          My playoff idea is better than anything thrown up in here. Sorry, just stating fact.

          Those who hate the idea of a large-scale playoff hate excitement and intensity.

          32 teams isn't too large. 6 is way too fucking small and it still pushes out all the non-AQ conferences.

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          • CaribbeanJoseph
            I Can Score Goals
            • Dec 2008
            • 5275

            #20
            Including every conference champ is a must for any playoff system.

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            • JeremyHight
              I wish I was Scrubs
              • Feb 2009
              • 4063

              #21
              Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
              -College basketball, meaningless regular season. (nearly every game matters)
              CBB is one of the only sports where a team could lose EVERY regular season game and still make a conference tournament and then the championship tournament. Yep, their regular season matters.

              Again, CBB is its own thing. It has a market in March and overall, most people don't care about it any other month. Even in March, people only care about it for as long as their bracket is alive. Football could do wonders with a playoff, but it needs to be done right. Getting rid of 30% of the season and making it just a playoff would be an awful idea. However, making it a 4 team playoff with just conference champions is a very solid start.

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              • BrntO4Life
                My Aunt Ida Smokes.
                • Mar 2009
                • 6866

                #22
                Originally posted by JeremyHight
                Football could do wonders with a playoff, but it needs to be done right. Getting rid of 30% of the season and making it just a playoff would be an awful idea. However, making it a 4 team playoff with just conference champions is a very solid start.
                What's this 30% of the season that you think anyone wants to cut out?

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                • Bear Pand
                  RIP Indy Colts
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 5945

                  #23
                  Originally posted by CaribbeanJoseph
                  Including every conference champ is a must for any playoff system.
                  Why?

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                  • BrntO4Life
                    My Aunt Ida Smokes.
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 6866

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Bear Pand
                    Why?
                    Because they won their conference. I don't give a shit if the Non-AQ conferences are weaker. The level of competition is relative and they deserve a shot at knocking off the big boys. They'd receive lower seeds anyways.

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                    • JeremyHight
                      I wish I was Scrubs
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 4063

                      #25
                      Originally posted by BrntO4Life
                      What's this 30% of the season that you think anyone wants to cut out?
                      ... you are the one who brought up cutting up to 3 games from some teams in order to make a playoff.

                      In case you forgot...

                      Cut the regular season down to 10 games if you have to.

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                      • Bear Pand
                        RIP Indy Colts
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 5945

                        #26
                        Originally posted by BrntO4Life
                        My playoff idea is better than anything thrown up in here. Sorry, just stating fact.

                        Those who hate the idea of a large-scale playoff hate excitement and intensity.

                        32 teams isn't too large. 6 is way too fucking small and it still pushes out all the non-AQ conferences.
                        It's not fact it's opinion.

                        And the primary goal of a playoff system should be to get the teams that earn it in and objectively crown a champion. If you do that correctly the excitement and intensity will be there. Doing it the other way is backwards.

                        Too many people want to throw in extra teams just for shits and giggles. OMG could you imagine a January madness?! I'm already filling out my bracket in my head! #16 La Tech over #1 LSU. Upset city baby!

                        Nah fuck that.

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                        • JeremyHight
                          I wish I was Scrubs
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 4063

                          #27
                          I'm all for taking the top four conference champions in the BCS rankings. It makes the regular season matter since you have to win your OOC games and your conference to even have a shot. It gives a playoff so people will see it as legitimate. Finally, it does away with stupid AQ bids. This isn't the top four BCS conference champions, this is the top four conference champions. Whether it be a small school or a big one, I don't care, I just want to see them get a shot without making the season worthless.

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                          • CaribbeanJoseph
                            I Can Score Goals
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 5275

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Bear Pand
                            Why?
                            Because they won their conference, I don't see what the big deal is, if the non-AQ champs are as inferior as people like to make out then then its just an easy first round matchup for the BCS champs, they deserve their shot.

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                            • BrntO4Life
                              My Aunt Ida Smokes.
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 6866

                              #29
                              Originally posted by JeremyHight
                              ... you are the one who brought up cutting up to 3 games from some teams in order to make a playoff.

                              In case you forgot...



                              Don't count conference championships. Barely any teams get those.

                              I'm cutting out two games for the vast majority of teams. Most of those teams suck anyways.

                              Plus, I'd be down to keep it at 12 games. But I imagine most people would complain about the season being "too long".

                              Originally posted by Bear Pand
                              It's not fact it's opinion.

                              And the primary goal of a playoff system should be to get deserving teams in and objectively crown a champion. If you do that correctly the excitement and intensity will be there. Doing it the other way is backwards.

                              Too many people want to throw in extra teams just for shits and giggles. OMG could you imagine a January madness?! I'm already filling out my bracket in my head! #16 La Tech over #1 LSU. Upset city baby!

                              Nah fuck that.
                              Sorry, but if you're a 1 seed and you lose to an 8-seed (32 team playoffs don't have 16-seeds), you don't look like a champion to me. You look like an overrated sack of shit.

                              And the BCS sure claims to give deserving teams a shot at the crown. Best two teams of last season? Supposedly, the played. How fucking exciting was that game again?

                              Give me a playoff in which teams have to work for it for a little more than a month. I want a brutal gauntlet of games, not some Maxi-Pad tourney that lasts one weekend.

                              Let all of the shitty teams that had 6 wins and aren't in the Top 32 play meaningless bowl games. Then no one can complain

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                              • BrntO4Life
                                My Aunt Ida Smokes.
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 6866

                                #30
                                Originally posted by JeremyHight
                                This isn't the top four BCS conference champions, this is the top four conference champions. Whether it be a small school or a big one, I don't care, I just want to see them get a shot without making the season worthless.
                                Oh yeah? Tell me how many times in the last 10 years a non-AQ school has been ranked in the Top 4 at the end of a season?

                                Again, you just seem in favor of big schools here.

                                I want Cinderellas. It's a bigger feat in football than it is in basketball, too.

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