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No one else is getting punished from other teams? because it obviously went on in Buffalo and Washington.
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I've already given a bunch of examples. Look at the guy in your avatar...the living embodiment of the legal, dirty knee shot. Here are a few more Eagles-related ones...Buddy Ryan sending half his special teams to take out kicker Tony Zendejas of the Cowboys. Legal, yes. Dirty, yes. Hugh Douglass body-slamming Jim Miller to the ground after a thrown INT. Legal, yes (since no penalty called). Dirty, yes. Intent to injure? Yes.
I don't want to get back into this shit argument again, where I cite numerous specific examples, and people like Zoneblitz ignore them and claim that no one can come up with examples. If bounties have no effect on the on-field product, why would the Saints bother having one?Comment
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Maybe you have a point. I grew up during the Buddy Ryan years. I've sat at a bar numerous times and been part of conversations where we all laughed about Zendejas stumbling to the other sideline, or the body bag game, etc. I guess my background gives me a diferent perspective, and maybe I'm a little too laxed in my stance. I don't know.
Look, I don't want to see football players get hurt, especially on purpose. I just question whether the bounties are the reason players go that extra mile, or if it's the proverbial "cherry on top" of a mindset that is already there in the first place..Comment
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I checked the football blog on the Washington Post, and the NFL could find no evidence that a similar program went on in Washington.
Nevermind that both Philip Daniels and Matt Bowen basically some sort of program happened, but whatever. The NFL did leave open the door for punishment later on if evidence came into play down the road, however.Comment
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Senator calls hearing to examine bounties in NFL
WASHINGTON — The Senate wants to grill the NFL about bounties. And the NBA, NHL, NCAA and Major League Baseball are invited, too.
Sen. Dick Durbin is setting up a Judiciary Committee hearing about bounties in professional football and other major sports in the wake of news that New Orleans Saints players received extra cash for hits that hurt particular opponents.
The assistant Senate majority leader, an Illinois Democrat, said Thursday he wants to examine whether federal law should make such bounty systems a crime.
"Let’s be real basic about it here. If this activity were taking place off of a sporting field, away from a court, nobody would have a second thought (about whether it’s wrong). ’You mean, someone paid you to go out and hurt someone?’" Durbin said in a telephone interview before raising the issue on the floor of the Senate.
"It goes way beyond the rules of any sporting contest, at least team contest, to intentionally inflict harm on another person for a financial reward," he said.
His announcement came a day after the NFL took a harsh stand on bounties, suspending Saints head coach Sean Payton for all of next season, and indefinitely banning their former defensive coordinator, Gregg Williams. Saints general manager Mickey Loomis was barred for half of 2012, an assistant coach got a six-game ban, and the team also was docked two second-round draft picks and $500,000.
NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell still needs to decide what penalties to give players who were involved in the Saints’ scheme from 2009-11.
"I am encouraged by what the National Football League did. What they came down with as a penalty on the New Orleans Saints was decisive and historic," Durbin said, adding that he thought the league was "taking this very seriously."
But moving forward, the NFL and other leagues must "come up with standards to make sure this isn’t going to happen again," he said. Otherwise, lawmakers will need to "at least explore whether it is necessary to have federal legislation in this area."
One possibility, Durbin explained, would be to extend federal sports bribery laws to cover bounties, so that "if someone offers in a team sports situation some sort of value, money or otherwise, to intentionally hurt another player, that, in fact, would be a crime."
In an email to the AP, NFL spokesman Greg Aiello wrote: "Commissioner Goodell has taken strong action to ensure that bounties are eliminated from the NFL. We have not heard from Senator Durbin but would be pleased to discuss the matter with him."
Under the bounty system overseen in New Orleans by Williams — who was hired in January by the St. Louis Rams — the targeted players included quarterbacks Aaron Rodgers, Cam Newton, Brett Favre and Kurt Warner. "Knockouts" were worth $1,500 and "cart-offs" $1,000, with payments doubled or tripled for the playoffs.
According to the league, Saints defensive captain Jonathan Vilma offered $10,000 to any player who knocked then-Vikings QB Favre out of the 2010 NFC championship game. Durbin isn’t sure when the hearing will happen, but he said it could be two to three weeks from now.Comment
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How long until that "Demolition Man" world comes to life where all contact sports are illegal...
..put me back in the fridge...Comment
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Whatever happens Roman Harper should be suspended. It's not hard to see that he had a HUGE part in the bounties just seeing from his on field pay.Comment
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Colin Cowherd made a great point on twitter, saying how these misguided Saints fans are complaining and trying to figure out who the 'snitch' was, instead of worrying about the cretins that make up their coaching staff and locker room.
Fans are nuts, they really are. You would think these people would be disgusted that people like Jonathan Vilma & Sean Payton represent their city and killed their team, yet they are more outraged at "the snitch".Comment
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Text between Shockey and Sean Payton
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Good to know both Payton and Shockey type like 12 year old girls.
You see, guys? It's not just us!
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