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  • FirstTimer
    Freeman Error

    • Feb 2009
    • 18720

    Originally posted by ZoneBlitz
    I still dont believe the bounty made the Saints players wanna injure opponents any more than any other team.

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    Odd, if that's the case.....THEN THERE WOULD BE NO NEED FOR THE BOUNTY PROGRAM TO BEGIN WITH.


    You honestly think that Jonathan Vilma standing in the locker room ad offering 10k to take out a QB has no effect on the way a player would go out and play the game?

    Srsly?

    If it doesn't then why offer the 10k? Why make the announcement?

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    • FirstTimer
      Freeman Error

      • Feb 2009
      • 18720

      Originally posted by Maynard
      i never stated any of the hits were legal....you seriously have a reading disorder
      Apparently in Maynard warped view legal =/= not being against the rules.

      Just STFU.

      With each post you make yourself look increasingly dumber.

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      • Maynard
        stupid ass titles
        • Feb 2009
        • 17875

        i cant help it your too stupid to understand FT. if i look stupid too you then its only because your too dumb to get it.

        see i get what your saying. as stupid as you may be, i still can think down a few notches to get your point. i am sorry if my remedial sentences are too much for you to handle.

        just stick with those posts and you will be ok....keep it on your level their buddy...and dont hurt yourself...btw, those groans only show how angry you get...lol

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        • ZoneBlitz
          .
          • Feb 2009
          • 1844

          Originally posted by FirstTimer
          Odd, if that's the case.....THEN THERE WOULD BE NO NEED FOR THE BOUNTY PROGRAM TO BEGIN WITH.
          Incorrect. Just because they had a bounty program doesnt mean there was a need for it.

          If i started a bounty program on VSN for flaming, and a few members contributed to the pot, does that mean there is a NEED for it and everyone participates?

          Originally posted by FirstTimer
          You honestly think that Jonathan Vilma standing in the locker room ad offering 10k to take out a QB has no effect on the way a player would go out and play the game?
          If they have a brain, no it shouldnt have any effect whatsoever.

          150,000 fine + 15 yard penalty >>>>> 10,000 bounty

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          • Senser81
            VSN Poster of the Year
            • Feb 2009
            • 12804

            Originally posted by Maynard
            apparently you have not sensor. they teach this type of behavior in HS. shit i remember as far back as 12 years old playing for the city leagues being told to clean his clock....kill the QB....destroy him
            Wow, thats some strong evidence. They teach this by saying "destroy him". Got it. Your coaches must have been awesome. Did you also have a defense called "kill the QB" or "clean his clock"?

            Originally posted by Maynard
            it got more intense as the years went on. i never played anything beyond college, but i know dam well the pros are even more intense about this.
            HA HA HA HA HAHA! What college did you play at? Who was your coach?

            Originally posted by Maynard
            most players are not studs....that means they need to do everything in their power to make it. if that means creaming the oppositions star player so he is carted off the field, then so be it.
            Really? Thats how teams determine who to keep, by who can cream the oppositions star player? So are the Bears going to cut Matt Forte to keep a roster spot open for Corey Wooten, because he's the guy that hurt Favre?

            So now, not only does every player in the league headhunt...the front office makes decisions on which players to keep and which players to cut based on who can injure the other team's players more often?????

            Originally posted by Maynard
            its sad that you guys are the ones with a rep for being so knowledgeable about sports, but the fact is you are really just a bunch of arm chair QB's who dont know shit....wow
            Yeah, its sad. Sorry to disappoint.

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            • FirstTimer
              Freeman Error

              • Feb 2009
              • 18720

              Originally posted by Maynard
              see i get what your saying.
              No you don't.


              At all.

              Above ya kid.

              Above ya.

              maynard: I don't care about the bounties as long as the hits that were made were not against the rules

              VSD: The hits made on Warner on the block and some of the hits against Favre were legal hit(ie "not against the rules") but could be/were obviously dealt out as a result of the bounty program yet you seemingly have no moral or ethical qualms with that...which is both sad and scary

              maynard: Herpa derpa derpa.

              ZB: Bounties have no effect. HERPA DERP!

              maynard and ZB in unison. DERPA DERPA HERP!

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              • shag773
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2009
                • 2721

                Originally posted by Senser81
                Teams/players have a way of policing themselves. You also have a small group of guys who have played football together their entire lives. They might have played together in college, many of them went to the same summer camps. Then these same guys play with and against each other in the NFL for a number of years. You have a certain level of respect for your fellow NFL player, and if you make a dirty play against someone, odds are there is going to be retribution.

                The idiots in this thread make it seem as if every game is a bloodbath, and every player is trying to injure every other player on every single play. Have any of you played football before? Seriously.
                I guess I just have a problem with the statement that most NFL players are not out to intentionally injure each other.

                But of course I am an Eagles fan.............

                and maybe watched too many episodes of 1st and Ten............

                and possibly watched Any Given Sunday one too many times.........

                sprinkle in a couple viewings of the Longest Yard..the old one, not the stupid Sandler one......

                and viola, instant gullible NFL Fan......

                I'm actually a little burned out from the argument, but I'll say this. It's not that I can't understand your view point and where it's coming from. I respect it.

                The problem is I always thought this went on, and was a little taken aback by the reactions in the media and in here. I understand that bounties are wrong. But I just assumed it was an accepted part of the game.

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                • FirstTimer
                  Freeman Error

                  • Feb 2009
                  • 18720

                  Originally posted by ZoneBlitz
                  Incorrect. Just because they had a bounty program doesnt mean there was a need for it.
                  Nice work not understanding what the hell is going on.

                  Jesus Christ.


                  Originally posted by ZoneBlitz
                  If i started a bounty program on VSN for flaming, and a few members contributed to the pot, does that mean there is a NEED for it and everyone participates?
                  I would venture a guess that flaming would increase and in cases where it wasn't needed.

                  Hmm.

                  Sound familiar?



                  Originally posted by ZoneBlitz
                  If they have a brain, no it shouldnt have any effect whatsoever.

                  150,000 fine + 15 yard penalty >>>>> 10,000 bounty
                  Where was the fine on the Warner block?

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                  • Maynard
                    stupid ass titles
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 17875

                    Originally posted by Senser81
                    Wow, thats some strong evidence. They teach this by saying "destroy him". Got it. Your coaches must have been awesome. Did you also have a defense called "kill the QB" or "clean his clock"?



                    HA HA HA HA HAHA! What college did you play at? Who was your coach?



                    Really? Thats how teams determine who to keep, by who can cream the oppositions star player? So are the Bears going to cut Matt Forte to keep a roster spot open for Corey Wooten, because he's the guy that hurt Favre?

                    So now, not only does every player in the league headhunt...the front office makes decisions on which players to keep and which players to cut based on who can injure the other team's players more often?????



                    Yeah, its sad. Sorry to disappoint.
                    is there a point in here somewhere? your just spouting off and saying nothing that counters my point. i guess that means you have no point

                    good i win

                    Originally posted by FirstTimer
                    No you don't.


                    At all.

                    Above ya kid.

                    Above ya.

                    maynard: I don't care about the bounties as long as the hits that were made were not against the rules

                    VSD: The hits made on Warner on the block and some of the hits against Favre were legal hit(ie "not against the rules") but could be/were obviously dealt out as a result of the bounty program yet you seemingly have no moral or ethical qualms with that...which is both sad and scary

                    maynard: Herpa derpa derpa.

                    ZB: Bounties have no effect. HERPA DERP!

                    maynard and ZB in unison. DERPA DERPA HERP!
                    i like how you changed the comment you made into the collective comment of VSD....lol

                    btw, nice try to save face

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                    • ZoneBlitz
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                      • Feb 2009
                      • 1844

                      Originally posted by FirstTimer
                      Where was the fine on the Warner block?
                      Where is the proof that hit was a result of the bounty?

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                      • Maynard
                        stupid ass titles
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 17875

                        oh, i almost forgot

                         


                        gotta keep it on your level

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                        • FirstTimer
                          Freeman Error

                          • Feb 2009
                          • 18720

                          ZB: I don't think bounties influence the way players play.

                          VSD: Then why have them if they aren't going to influence play? As some sort of asinine "lucky injury hit" lottery?

                          ZB: Just because they had a bounty program doesnt mean there was a need for it

                          VSD: Odd. Not the discussion. You are saying bounties don't influence the way players play. When in almost every case of a bounty program taking place in NFL history it pretty obviously has, yet in this case it somehow didn't despite the fact that we can go watch tape of those games and see some huge killshot hits that likely weren't needed...but no..the bounties didn't have an effect.

                          Jesus H Christ.

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                          • Houston
                            Back home
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 21229

                            Originally posted by Maynard
                            apparently you have not sensor.
                            *Senser 81, though "Senser" is also acceptable.

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                            • FirstTimer
                              Freeman Error

                              • Feb 2009
                              • 18720

                              Originally posted by Maynard

                              i like how you changed the comment you made into the collective comment of VSD
                              Actually I didn't.

                              It's a combination of two posts.

                              Nice work being brain dead.


                              Originally posted by ZoneBlitz
                              Where is the proof that hit was a result of the bounty?
                              Where is the proof that it wasn't?

                              How often do you see QB's getting decleated on ear hole hits on INT returns?

                              Seriously? You can't see the issue here? If EVERY single hit during the course of a game is in question because of a bounty program the entire integrity of the league is in question.

                              You're fucking terrible

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                              • Maynard
                                stupid ass titles
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 17875

                                Originally posted by FirstTimer
                                ZB: I don't think bounties influence the way players play.

                                VSD: Then why have them if they aren't going to influence play? As some sort of asinine "lucky injury hit" lottery?

                                ZB: Just because they had a bounty program doesnt mean there was a need for it

                                VSD: Odd. Not the discussion. You are saying bounties don't influence the way players play. When in almost every case of a bounty program taking place in NFL history it pretty obviously has, yet in this case it somehow didn't despite the fact that we can go watch tape of those games and see some huge killshot hits that likely weren't needed...but no..the bounties didn't have an effect.

                                Jesus H Christ.
                                what play are you talking about FT?

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