Sean Payton Suspended 1 Year, Saints Lose Pair of 2nd Round Picks

[bucky]

You can play on my defense any day.

DSpydr, shag, Maynard, zone blitz, are welcome as well. Bucky can be our D coordinator cuz he has heart but he is old.

W2B is our QB, senser is the diva WR and FT is our Adam Vinatieri.

We'd never lose.

Sadly, I'd get suspended by the commissioner for rewarding the player having the hardest game time hit with a day off from practice. My head coach, who knew about this, would also get suspended.

[ZoneBlitz]

What logical reason would someone have to put up a bounty when they know it makes absolutely no difference?

Same logical reason players have stupid superstitions and pre-game rituals.

[Senser81]

Some keep saying "well if the bounties didnt do anything, why did they exist"? Ill tell you why, its the same reason why many athletes have retarded & ridiculous superstitions & rituals. These players believe that having bounties might give them a slight edge, and thats why they do them. They are wrong & stupid for believing it gives them an edge, but just like their superstitions, they do it anyway without regard to the logic it lacks. If you believe the bounties caused them to play different, you might as well believe their superstitions cause them to play better too. Both views are equally stupid & not grounded in any logic.

So, the Saints having a bounty system designed to maim/injure opposing players is the same as a little girl carrying around a lucky rabbit's foot? Wow, I never thought of it like that. Makes sense.

And if Goodell wouldn't suspend a girl for carrying a lucky rabbit's foot, then how could he suspend anyone in the Saints organization? 'Tis an outrage.

[bucky]

So, the Saints having a bounty system designed to maim/injure opposing players is the same as a little girl carrying around a lucky rabbit's foot? Wow, I never thought of it like that. Makes sense.

And if Goodell wouldn't suspend a girl for carrying a lucky rabbit's foot, then how could he suspend anyone in the Saints organization? 'Tis an outrage.

I LOL'ed at superstition.

But a little side money incentive for playing physical is just another tool in the toolbox. If the little side money as an incentive for getting players to play more physical isn't their, the team, coaches would find another tool to use. As much as bounties are wrong and those caught should get penalized, I just don't see them changing the game all that much. The hits that injure will still happen, until rules are changed, and coaches, teams, will find other tools to incite the most physical play they can get out of their team.

The commish should come down on the Saints like he did. But a lot of this is a PR move.

Warner will say this is just stating the obvious, and it really is, but if you are really concerned about players safety, then push for better equipment and CHANGE THE FUCKING ON FIELD RULES to eliminate as many of the hits that bring a higher % of injury.

Senser, come back and say anything you want. Feelings won't be hurt. You're still one of my favs and have been ever since MM. I heart U DUDE.

[ZoneBlitz]

So, the Saints having a bounty system designed to maim/injure opposing players is the same as a little girl carrying around a lucky rabbit's foot? Wow, I never thought of it like that. Makes sense.

And if Goodell wouldn't suspend a girl for carrying a lucky rabbit's foot, then how could he suspend anyone in the Saints organization? 'Tis an outrage.

I didnt say the bounty WAS a superstition, because there isnt the element of luck. But its the same principle. You do something lacking in logic because you believe it gives you a slight edge. I think superstition isnt the best comparison, a better comparison is to pre-game rituals.

Goodell suspending the Saints was just a PR move. He knew about their bounty program years ago, and if they had stopped back then he wouldnt have punished them at all. Compare that to spygate. Goodell never gave a warning to the Pats to stop videotaping, he brought the hammer down on them as soon as he found out.

[EmpireWF]

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Goodell suspending the Saints was just a PR move. He knew about their bounty program years ago, and if they had stopped back then he wouldnt have punished them at all. Compare that to spygate. Goodell never gave a warning to the Pats to stopped videotaping, he brought the hammer down on them as soon as he found out.

No.

Goodell suspending the Saints was because they violated the rules and tried to cover it all up.

The NFL only investigated allegations against the Saints in 2010 after the initial charges from the unnamed player were received. Nothing much came of it. Then in 2011, the NFL received evidence it found credible that was "irrefutable."

He immediately dropped the hammer on New England because all it took to investigate was to confiscate the tapes and watch for themselves.

[JeremyHight]

I didnt say the bounty WAS a superstition, because there isnt the element of luck. But its the same principle. You do something lacking in logic because you believe it gives you a slight edge. I think superstition isnt the best comparison, a better comparison is to pre-game rituals.

This is a terrible comparison. If you get into a pile in football, you aren't going to twist someone's ankle or break their finger because you are wearing special socks or Ray Lewis did a rousing chant. On the other hand, a bounty is gives you the conscious thought to hurt someone for a reward.

Compare that to spygate. Goodell never gave a warning to the Pats to stopped videotaping, he brought the hammer down on them as soon as he found out.

Not true at all...

The Patriots' cheating is particularly egregious because the team had previously been warned about taping the opposition's signals. Packers president Bob Harlan said the same Patriots employee caught red-handed against the Jets on Sunday was also caught taping the Packers' signals when the Patriots visited Green Bay last year, and that the NFL subsequently told the Patriots to knock it off.

Also, due to rumors around the league beforehand, the league sent out a memo at the beginning of the season regarding stealing signals...

NFL rules state "no video recording devices of any kind are permitted to be in use in the coaches' booth, on the field, or in the locker room during the game." They also say all video for coaching purposes must be shot from locations "enclosed on all sides with a roof overhead."

That was re-emphasized in a memo sent Sept. 6 to NFL head coaches and general managers. In it, Ray Anderson, the league's executive vice president of football operations, wrote:"Videotaping of any type, including but not limited to taping of an opponent's offensive or defensive signals, is prohibited on the sidelines, in the coaches' booth, in the locker room or at any other locations accessible to club staff members during the game."

Your point is just plain wrong.

[ZoneBlitz]

This is a terrible comparison. If you get into a pile in football, you aren't going to twist someone's ankle or break their finger because you are wearing special socks or Ray Lewis did a rousing chant. On the other hand, a bounty is gives you the conscious thought to hurt someone for a reward.

The Saints werent twisting ankles or breaking fingers. Do you have any proof of them doing this?

The bounty was reward for big hits that result in injury....not twisting someone's ankle in a pile.

[JeremyHight]

The Saints werent twisting ankles or breaking fingers. Do you have any proof of them doing this?

The bounty was reward for big hits that result in injury....not twisting someone's ankle in a pile.

Although I have only seen numerous references that say injuring a player would result in gaining a bonus, fine, I'll change my analogy. You aren't going to purposely hit someone in the head because of a pre-game speech or wearing your lucky underwear. You are going to do it for a bounty.

Sorry, I'm not a pro at analogies like you.

[ZoneBlitz]

Although I have only seen numerous references that say injuring a player would result in gaining a bonus

Injuring a player with big hits. Not injuring a player by any means.

fine, I'll change my analogy. You aren't going to purposely hit someone in the head because of a pre-game speech or wearing your lucky underwear. You are going to do it for a bounty.

If you are making 7 figures and the bounty is 10k, no you wont.

You are just as likely to hit someone in the head because of a pre-game speech as a bounty.

[JeremyHight]

If you are making 7 figures and the bounty is 10k, no you wont.

You are just as likely to hit someone in the head because of a pre-game speech as a bounty.

And if you are the six figure guy who might not have a job next season or even next week? You aren't going to make a head hit to get a bounty and hopefully impress those in charge who put the bounties in place? Bullshit.

Again, people will do anything for money, even if they are making 6+ figures. There is a reason why CEOs making millions are trying to make that extra few hundred thousand by any means. Bernie Madoff stole hundreds of millions, but was still trying to bilk people for a few thousand bucks. Greed >>> anything.

[ZoneBlitz]

And if you are the six figure guy who might not have a job next season or even next week? You aren't going to make a head hit to get a bounty and hopefully impress those in charge who put the bounties in place? Bullshit.

1) That guy barely plays.

2) That guy knows to keep his hits within the rules, because a 15 yard penalty could cost him his career. He's playing for his NFL career, not a measly 10k bounty.

[Senser81]

2) That guy knows to keep his hits within the rules, because a 15 yard penalty could cost him his career. He's playing for his NFL career, not a measly 10k bounty.

Whoa, whats this? You mean to tell me a player can injure another player within the framework of the rules? I didn't think that was possible.

Also, do you mean to tell me that the bounty system was designed to reward injuries, not 15-yard penalties taken? I didn't think that was possible, either.

Maybe its just me being jaded at this point, but your postings get dumber and dumber to me. The "superstition" analogy takes the cake. I have a superstition...whenever I get up in the morning, I open my front door and blindly fire a shot from my gun. One day, I hit my neighbor and almost killed him. The cops came, and I said "Whats the big deal? Its just a superstition".

[ZoneBlitz]

Also, do you mean to tell me that the bounty system was designed to reward injuries, not 15-yard penalties taken? I didn't think that was possible, either.

Its obviously implied that the hits should be within the rules, only a moron would see it otherwise.

Maybe its just me being jaded at this point, but your postings get dumber and dumber to me. The "superstition" analogy takes the cake.

Has anyone here ever made a sex video with another dude? If so, can you give me some technical tips on the filming, like camera angles, lighting, etc?

I have a superstition...whenever I get up in the morning, I open my front door and blindly fire a shot from my gun. One day, I hit my neighbor and almost killed him. The cops came, and I said "Whats the big deal? Its just a superstition".

Not only is this attempted joke completely unfunny, it doesnt even correctly address what i said. I can see why you had an early exit in the March Madness tournament. Just admit that you're past your posting prime and on your way to retirement.

[ram29jackson]

in any case..most long term fans are laughing..this isnt that serious..we dont care..sure, no one wants blatant violence and injury..but football is based on aggression for half the players on the field at any given time,so what else is new ?

linemen may start droppping 60 pounds because they arent needed to be that tough anymore...?