Is Jonathan Vilma the NFL "escape goat"?

[FirstTimer]

[EmpireWF]

I guess I'm the only one who would like to see the evidence? Sue me for it. As far as the whole homer blah blah shit. Cut it out. Still to this day only the businessmen and women are completely appalled at this while the players continue to shrug it off. Many even defending it, but what do they know. There are always 3 sides to a story. Each persons story and the truth. We have only gotten one part of the story, but you idiots are taking it as fact. Homer has absolutely nothing to do with expecting the "evidence" to be available to the open and maintaining judgement for when the ENTIRE STORY is available to everyone. Bet you don't even know half the shit you vote for either. Fucking dumbasses the lot of you. Juts quick to talk down to someone yet look like an imbecile in the process. This rant is the end of my participation in Bounty Gate until the truth is out there.

If this was the Falcons this was happening to, I think you'd be a lot less inclined to want to "see evidence."

The Saints brass is not denying this happened. Why do you think that is?

[Senser81]

Cornelius was formerly known as "Madden4Life" IIRC

Can anyone confirm this?

[Senser81]

I thought JohnnyEctasy was Nuk's alt?

True, but I thought he stopped posting with his "Nuk" account, and started using Cornelius instead. I thought Madden4Life has his own VSD account of "Madden4Life".

[FirstTimer]

If this was the Falcons this was happening to, I think you'd be a lot less inclined to want to "see evidence."

The Saints brass is not denying this happened. Why do you think that is?

Because the Saints brass is part of the conspiracy.

DUH

[Juggernaut]

True, but I thought he stopped posting with his "Nuk" account, and started using Cornelius instead. I thought Madden4Life has his own VSD account of "Madden4Life".

Huh, that's a shame. I actually liked "Nuk" in some threads. If Cornelius and Nuk are 1 in the same, then his trolling ability has gone down.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Cornelius = Madden4Life

Same angry, shitty poster.

[RosettaStoned]

Lmao.. GMO food is the devil maaan. The irony of cornelius bitching about me using ad hominem is too much.

[KNUBB]

If this was the Falcons this was happening to, I think you'd be a lot less inclined to want to "see evidence."

The Saints brass is not denying this happened. Why do you think that is?

That would make me a hypocrite and that is something I am not. I am pretty consistent in my views and it wouldn't matter if it was any other team. That is where all of you have it confused. You assume that I feel like my team is being targeted for nothing. I don't care who the team is. As far as everyone shooting down how this doesn't break into the federal crime. Don't you think the IRS wants to know if money passed hands. You're all too caught up in the hysteria. If you look at it like I see it then you would understand why I feel like the evidence must be let out in the public. There HAS to be something the NFL doesn't want everyone to see. I am pretty sure the report will be released either through the courts via lawsuits from the NFLPA or if the feds want to get involved.

No anything the "Saints brass" is saying isn't being reported by the national media. I have heard several statements about how this entire situation has been exaggerated to an extent. Also to those thinking that these appeals go straight to Goodell are mistaken. The front office ones were labeled as "Conduct detrimental to the league" which is why they went to Goodell. Anything otherwise goes to arbitration. There are so many other questions that must be taken into account regarding the players. Did they even know if the front office was told to stop? This type of question must be asked. Which is why there is a solid chance of these appeals going to arbitration or even the courts. If it goes to courts then these players could potentially play this season as it would be on the same level as the StarCaps cases.

[Cornelius]

Lmao.. GMO food is the devil maaan. The irony of cornelius bitching about me using ad hominem is too much.

Sven, this is a case where correlation =/= causation doesn't apply. You lack the basic scientific knowledge that one would need to know to know that telling a morbidly obese person to do HIIT cardio is a bad idea at best, and potentially life threatening at worse. What's worse is that you're a paleotard to boot

It's ironic because you never state an argument without a personal attack?

Just so I keep it on topic for those that care....

I think Goodell is too quick to make examples of people. He should make an example of himself and step down.

[SethMode]

That would make me a hypocrite and that is something I am not. I am pretty consistent in my views and it wouldn't matter if it was any other team. That is where all of you have it confused. You assume that I feel like my team is being targeted for nothing. I don't care who the team is. As far as everyone shooting down how this doesn't break into the federal crime. Don't you think the IRS wants to know if money passed hands. You're all too caught up in the hysteria. If you look at it like I see it then you would understand why I feel like the evidence must be let out in the public. There HAS to be something the NFL doesn't want everyone to see. I am pretty sure the report will be released either through the courts via lawsuits from the NFLPA or if the feds want to get involved.

No anything the "Saints brass" is saying isn't being reported by the national media. I have heard several statements about how this entire situation has been exaggerated to an extent. Also to those thinking that these appeals go straight to Goodell are mistaken. The front office ones were labeled as "Conduct detrimental to the league" which is why they went to Goodell. Anything otherwise goes to arbitration. There are so many other questions that must be taken into account regarding the players. Did they even know if the front office was told to stop? This type of question must be asked. Which is why there is a solid chance of these appeals going to arbitration or even the courts. If it goes to courts then these players could potentially play this season as it would be on the same level as the StarCaps cases.

As a former lawyer, I can spot lawyer shit when I see it. I don't know what will come of all of this, but this entire post is super bullshit.

[KNUBB]

I'm no lawyer. I'm a computer science major.

but I do think like one.

and that post was as genuine as the internet can allow.

[SethMode]

I'm no lawyer. I'm a computer science major.

but I do think like one.

and that post was as genuine as the internet can allow.

Believe me, I know that you're not a lawyer.

I don't doubt that it was genuine. That doesn't change the fact that it's super bullshit.

To be fair, I am not judging either way. This kind of shit is so pointless. I'm just pointing out bullshit because I think it's fun to.

[ryne candy]

NO thinks so much of themselves that the NFL is out to get them. I understand them wanting it out of his hands (being he is judge/jury) but they may not have the choice...seems like they are going to be stuck like chuck.

[MaybeNextYear]

Does anyone know if it was Vilma who ran the whole bounty system, Greg Williams, or the perfect storm of two clowns in the same locker room?