Sources: Garrard current favorite to start for Miami, Tannehill "not in the running"

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  • f16harm
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    • Feb 2009
    • 2183

    #16
    Originally posted by ZoneBlitz
    This team has many pressing needs and QB wasnt one of them, because Matt Moore had a very solid season. Stephen Ross is just a meddling schmuck who wanted a big name and failed miserably at landing a coach.
    So QB wasn't a pressing need at all in Miami? We should have picked another DE and went all in with Moore....who doesn't look so hot in mini's/OTAs so far?. Please just STFU. You are like some of the Miami beat writers in FL. You know it all, and everything they do is wrong and/or you have a way to say it could have done better. Yet you provide nothing of value.

    Matt Moore had a nice season. Reality though was that he isn't the answer long term. And that's exactly where he is this year. Still with the team, has a free shot to be the guy this year. And right now it looks like he isn't cutting it. We'll see when the real balls start flying.

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    • Tailback U
      No substitute 4 strength.
      • Nov 2008
      • 10282

      #17
      lol @ any of you thinking you know anything about Tannehill already.

      He isn't ready to start in the NFL right now, I'm pretty sure the Dolphins knew that when they drafted him. They drafted him because he has the potential to be a franchise QB.

      Everybody knows how hard it is to get a franchise QB. When you have the opportunity to get one with that potential, you get one. The Fins are hoping they don't draft this early again anytime soon and they took the best QB available because they had to.

      I read something on how the Green Bay Packers have drafted more quarterbacks than any other team in the league over the last 20 or so years. They managed to find two franchise quarterbacks and trade several of them for very valuable pieces in that time span.

      It is the most important position in football. You have to take chances to get a good one. Very rarely are they just going to luckily fall into your laps ala Tom Brady.

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      • f16harm
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        • Feb 2009
        • 2183

        #18
        Originally posted by Tailback U
        lol @ any of you thinking you know anything about Tannehill already.

        He isn't ready to start in the NFL right now, I'm pretty sure the Dolphins knew that when they drafted him. They drafted him because he has the potential to be a franchise QB.

        Everybody knows how hard it is to get a franchise QB. When you have the opportunity to get one with that potential, you get one. The Fins are hoping they don't draft this early again anytime soon and they took the best QB available because they had to.

        I read something on how the Green Bay Packers have drafted more quarterbacks than any other team in the league over the last 10-15 years. They managed to find two franchise quarterbacks and trade several of them for very valuable pieces in that time span.

        It is the most important position in football. You have to take chances to get a good one. Very rarely are they just going to luckily fall into your laps ala Tom Brady.
        Come on Tailback, clearly you don't know as much as the others here, nor does.....Mike Sherman, our OC who coached Tannehill in college!!!!!

        In all seriousness, post is spot on and another interpretation of what I have been trying to say.

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        • NAHSTE
          Probably owns the site
          • Feb 2009
          • 22233

          #19
          Originally posted by Tailback U

          I read something on how the Green Bay Packers have drafted more quarterbacks than any other team in the league over the last 20 or so years. They managed to find two franchise quarterbacks and trade several of them for very valuable pieces in that time span.
          And they didn't draft any of them 8th overall. Earliest pick they've spent on a QB has been 24th.

          Nothing wrong with drafting a raw QB if you believe he has potential, but teams probably shouldn't be spending a top 10 pick on such a player.

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          • Tailback U
            No substitute 4 strength.
            • Nov 2008
            • 10282

            #20
            Originally posted by NAHSTE
            And they didn't draft any of them 8th overall. Earliest pick they've spent on a QB has been 24th.

            Nothing wrong with drafting a raw QB if you believe he has potential, but teams probably shouldn't be spending a top 10 pick on such a player.
            Why not?

            If he's the player you think he is going to be then it doesn't matter where you draft him. He was going to be taken by somebody in the first round, might as well grab him when you have the chance.

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            • Glenbino
              Jelly and Ice Cream
              • Nov 2009
              • 4994

              #21
              I never understood the rush to move on from Matt Moore, he played great when that team got hot last season for a lame duck coach and an empty stadium. He should have been given at least one season with some weapons added in this last draft to show that maybe he was good enough to get this team to the playoffs.

              There were plenty of options at #8 overall for the Dolphins, including trading down, which could have helped their team to get better THIS YEAR but instead they rolled the dice on a converted WR who put up big numbers in a spread offense playing in the Big 12, a conference where just about every QB throws for 4,000 yards and 35+ TDs.

              This team is going to be at the bottom of the AFC East for awhile in my opinion, especially since it seems like the guys in Buffalo have finally figured out what they're doing for the first time since they gave Rob Johnson $1 billion dollars.

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              • Tailback U
                No substitute 4 strength.
                • Nov 2008
                • 10282

                #22
                The guys in Buffalo just gave some dude named Ryan Fitzpatrick $40 million dollars or whatever. Don't know why you think they've finally "figured it out."

                The Dolphins know they're a few years away from contending for a division title or more and that's exactly why they drafted Tannehill.

                Matt Moore is exactly who he is. There is a reason he's bouncing around the league and getting beat out by the likes of David Garrard. He's not a bad QB, but he's certainly not that good.

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                • Glenbino
                  Jelly and Ice Cream
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 4994

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Tailback U
                  The guys in Buffalo just gave some dude named Ryan Fitzpatrick $40 million dollars or whatever. Don't know why you think they've finally "figured it out."

                  The Dolphins know they're a few years away from contending for a division title or more and that's exactly why they drafted Tannehill.

                  Matt Moore is exactly who he is. There is a reason he's bouncing around the league and getting beat out by the likes of David Garrard. He's not a bad QB, but he's certainly not that good.
                  It's an NFL contract... That $40 mil can become much smaller any time they would like. And this year he's making less than $600,000 more than Garrard who didn't even take a snap last season.

                  In the mean time they have real playmakers now on that offense (Steve Johnson, Spiller, Fred Jackson) for the first time I can remember in a long time. And they flat out stole Cordy Glenn in the second round of the draft.

                  On defense they've got studs on the line in Dareus, Kyle and Mario Williams plus a serviceable guy in Kelsay. They added Mark Anderson to the rotation as well and he looked pretty resurgent for the Pats at times last season. The LBs are average to declining but the secondary has a couple of guys who have shown they can make plays in McKelvin and Byrd.

                  I can't really think of a guy on the Dolphins I'm excited to watch besides Reggie Bush and maybe Lamar Miller.

                  Hell, their receiving corps is so bad they don't even have a #1 guy listed on the team's official depth chart http://www.miamidolphins.com/team/depth-chart.html.

                  Good for Garrard though I'm sure any QB is excited by the possiblity of spreading the ball around to the likes of Brian Hartline, Davone Bess and the corpse of Chad Ochocincojohnson.

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                  • NAHSTE
                    Probably owns the site
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 22233

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Glenbino
                    This team is going to be at the bottom of the AFC East for awhile in my opinion, especially since it seems like the guys in Buffalo have finally figured out what they're doing for the first time since they gave Rob Johnson $1 billion dollars.
                    My girlfriend was watching the film "Honey" this weekend and the character who is supposed to be a hotshot music video director was wore a Rob Johnson replica jersey at the video shoot. That pretty much sums up the quality of both his career and that movie.

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                    • Obst
                      RIP West
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 4182

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Glenbino
                      It's an NFL contract... That $40 mil can become much smaller any time they would like. And this year he's making less than $600,000 more than Garrard who didn't even take a snap last season.

                      In the mean time they have real playmakers now on that offense (Steve Johnson, Spiller, Fred Jackson) for the first time I can remember in a long time. And they flat out stole Cordy Glenn in the second round of the draft.

                      On defense they've got studs on the line in Dareus, Kyle and Mario Williams plus a serviceable guy in Kelsay. They added Mark Anderson to the rotation as well and he looked pretty resurgent for the Pats at times last season. The LBs are average to declining but the secondary has a couple of guys who have shown they can make plays in McKelvin and Byrd.

                      I can't really think of a guy on the Dolphins I'm excited to watch besides Reggie Bush and maybe Lamar Miller.

                      Hell, they're receiving corps is so bad they don't even have a #1 guy listed on the team's official depth chart http://www.miamidolphins.com/team/depth-chart.html.

                      Good for Garrard though I'm sure any QB is excited by the possiblity of spreading the ball around to the likes of Brian Hartline, Davone Bess and the corpse of Chad Ochocincojohnson.
                      Might be an upgrade over Ernest Wilford and Reggie Williams

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                      • Leftwich
                        Bring on the Season

                        • Oct 2008
                        • 13700

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Obst
                        Might be an upgrade over Ernest Wilford and Reggie Williams
                        Obst i'm disappointed in you. You forgot Matt Jones, Troy Williamson and the elusive Dennis Northcutt.

                        Originally posted by Tailback U
                        It won't say shit, because dying is for pussies.

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                        • f16harm
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                          • Feb 2009
                          • 2183

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Glenbino
                          I never understood the rush to move on from Matt Moore, he played great when that team got hot last season for a lame duck coach and an empty stadium. He should have been given at least one season with some weapons added in this last draft to show that maybe he was good enough to get this team to the playoffs.

                          There were plenty of options at #8 overall for the Dolphins, including trading down, which could have helped their team to get better THIS YEAR but instead they rolled the dice on a converted WR who put up big numbers in a spread offense playing in the Big 12, a conference where just about every QB throws for 4,000 yards and 35+ TDs.

                          This team is going to be at the bottom of the AFC East for awhile in my opinion, especially since it seems like the guys in Buffalo have finally figured out what they're doing for the first time since they gave Rob Johnson $1 billion dollars.
                          Terrible post is terrible. Your first paragraph overblows Matt Moore's play and ability, in addition to claiming Miami had an ability to draft offensive weapons (which they didn't) that would have helped Moore.....as rookies. Doubt it, few offensive rookies provide any significant impact YR1 on offense. Your second paragraph I already explained earlier. been there, done that a few times the past few years, has amounted to nothing. Third paragraph.......Chan Gailey and Dave Wannstedt, that should sum that up.

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                          • RyanLeaf16
                            #DoSomething
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 3211

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Tailback U
                            The guys in Buffalo just gave some dude named Ryan Fitzpatrick $40 million dollars or whatever. Don't know why you think they've finally "figured it out."

                            The Dolphins know they're a few years away from contending for a division title or more and that's exactly why they drafted Tannehill.

                            Matt Moore is exactly who he is. There is a reason he's bouncing around the league and getting beat out by the likes of David Garrard. He's not a bad QB, but he's certainly not that good.
                            The fact that he is behind David Garrard doesn't mean he is worse than Garrard. Coaches have their own built-in bias regarding players. If you don't think that is the case, you can look at the way Raheem handled Byron Leftwich. Raheem gave him the starting job, eventhough he was awful throughout TC and in the pre-season games. Granted, Luke McCown was not a world-beater, but, he was head and shoulders above Leftwich in his performance and he didn't give him an opportunity. He simply ran Leftwich out there till it was clear the season was over then he threw out Freeman.
                            Maddon & Friedman: Pissing off the AL East since 2008

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                            • Fight'On
                              Noob
                              • May 2012
                              • 50

                              #29
                              I'm not sure why they drafted him so high anyway, hes clearly not ready and Miami has other holes than QB.

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                              • killgod
                                OHHHH WHEN THE REDSSSSS
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 4714

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Tailback U
                                The Fins are hoping they don't draft this early again anytime soon.....
                                Is 2013 too soon?

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