Greg McElroy To Start For Jets

[MVPete]

And despite all of that Orton is still in a better position than Tebow... and has done more than him this season.

#2 on the Cowboys >>>>>>>>> #3 on the Jets. Orton would be starting for the Jets right now.

Wow bro that is awesome. Must make going to Purdue and being the biggest Kyle Orton homer in the world all worth it. ROMO'S BACKUP!!!!!!!!!!!

[Glenbino]

And despite all of that Orton is still in a better position than Tebow... and has done more than him this season.

#2 on the Cowboys >>>>>>>>> #3 on the Jets. Orton would be starting for the Jets right now.

I hope you realized how pathethic this argument was as you were typing it out...

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[Bear Pand]

I hope you realized how pathethic this argument was as you were typing it out...

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Yes I did. We're arguing about Kyle Orton vs Tim Tebow. You started it by unnecessarily bringing him up, I responded.

My dislike for Tebow has little to do with Orton, been making fun of him since he was at Florida.

[Bear Pand]

Wow bro that is awesome. Must make going to Purdue and being the biggest Kyle Orton homer in the world all worth it. ROMO'S BACKUP!!!!!!!!!!!

Better than being Brad Smith part 2, except Brad Smith was better at it.

[Glenbino]

Yes I did. We're arguing about Kyle Orton vs Tim Tebow. You started it by unnecessarily bringing him up, I responded.

My dislike for Tebow has little to do with Orton, been making fun of him since he was at Florida.

I'm talking about a QB who took over a 1-4 team and took them to the playoffs...

...you're touting Kyle Ortons performance as a backup QB in Dallas..

My main point was that if our defense was sooooo awesome last year too why didn't they start playing like it until Tebow got into the lineup?

Maybe because at the time he was benched Orton was leading all NFL QBs in turnovers?

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[JimLeavy59]

I'm talking about a QB who took over a 1-4 team and took them to the playoffs...

...you're touting Kyle Ortons performance as a backup QB in Dallas..

My main point was that if our defense was sooooo awesome last year too why didn't they start playing like it until Tebow got into the lineup?

Maybe because at the time he was benched Orton was leading all NFL QBs in turnovers?

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Or that the defense was banged up the first part of the season and started to get some key guys back?

[Warner2BruceTD]

Tebow takes Orton's job, immediately wins games and leads the team back from the dead to the playoffs (and wins a playoff game), but the conclusion is that Orton > Tebow because both are now backups and Peyton Manning is really good.

Got it.

This is the worst basis for an argument in the history of MM/VSN.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Or that the defense was banged up the first part of the season and started to get some key guys back?

Ball control & lack or turnovers.

I'd post the numbers but im tired of proving people wrong on this topic, especially people too stubborn to accept facts.

[MVPete]

I'm talking about a QB who took over a 1-4 team and took them to the playoffs...

...you're touting Kyle Ortons performance as a backup QB in Dallas..

My main point was that if our defense was sooooo awesome last year too why didn't they start playing like it until Tebow got into the lineup?

Maybe because at the time he was benched Orton was leading all NFL QBs in turnovers?

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That and they ran the ball a shit ton. Wasn't their D fucking terrible by the numbers last year?

[Glenbino]

Or that the defense was banged up the first part of the season and started to get some key guys back?

They weren't ... Von Miller even broke his hand VERY LATE in the season after Tebow was entrenched. I'm pretty sure McGahee went down for a spell as well.

You guys are building strawmen during snowman season and its embarrassing.

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[Bear Pand]

I'm talking about a QB who took over a 1-4 team and took them to the playoffs...

...you're touting Kyle Ortons performance as a backup QB in Dallas..

My main point was that if our defense was sooooo awesome last year too why didn't they start playing like it until Tebow got into the lineup?

Maybe because at the time he was benched Orton was leading all NFL QBs in turnovers?

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I'm not touting anything. Just pointed out that he's in a better position than Tebow, which he is. Again you brought up Orton, not me. Pointing out that Orton was leading the NFL in turnovers after 5 games last year has 0 to do with what I said.

If Tebows addition the the lineup was such a significant contribution to the Defense doing better why haven't they regressed at all after he's left? I guess apparently we're bragging about how the D played better with Tebow as opposed to Orton. And about how the Broncos as a team won more games with Tebow vs Orton. This is just as inane and pathetic an argument as anything I've said in here.

Who cares? Tebow is still trash.

[Bear Pand]

Tebow takes Orton's job, immediately wins games and leads the team back from the dead to the playoffs (and wins a playoff game), but the conclusion is that Orton > Tebow because both are now backups and Peyton Manning is really good.

Got it.

This is the worst basis for an argument in the history of MM/VSN.

LOL at my anti-Tebow argument predictably getting twisted into some sort of pointless Orton vs Tebow comparison.

[Warner2BruceTD]

LOL at my anti-Tebow argument predictably getting twisted into some sort of pointless Orton vs Tebow comparison.

You brought up Orton and compared them.

Are you insane?

[Bear Pand]

Ball control & lack or turnovers.

I'd post the numbers but im tired of proving people wrong on this topic, especially people too stubborn to accept facts.

The hilarious thing is that Sanchez has 25 turnovers this year which I'm guessing leads the league. And in addition to that Jets as a team aren't very good at controlling the ball.

And they still won't play Tebow.

HAHAHA

The Jets, arguably more than anyone, would benefit from a QB that doesn't turn the ball over and can control clock. Their offense has been a complete joke this year. And with their playoff lives on the line they still didn't believe this dude Tebow was the right man for the job. They even put him in and he couldn't do anything (part of it LOL playcalling by Sporano). Now when they are out of the race completely and have every reason to give players a shot to see what they can do, they still have no interest in playing Tebow.

Amazing.

[Bear Pand]

You brought up Orton and compared them.

Are you insane?

So Tebow can't even beat out the McElroy/Sanchez combo?



Dudes been trash all along.

Last year the Broncos were winning games on miracles, scraping to 8-8. This year they get a real QB and are about to win 11-13 games. Last year they beat a team by 8+ one time, they've done it in 10/11 of their victories so far this year.

Apparently (according to some on here) Tebow was the reason that Defense looked so good last year. This year their D looks just as good if not better without him.

In limited action Tebow hasn't done well with the Jets. And he's on a team where the coaching staff and GM are potentially fighting for their lives he can't even get any burn. Jets had every reason to play him, but didn't cause he's not good. Now we have to pretend its either cause the Jets couldn't see his talent (haha) or they're just too stubborn.

Tebow = garbage quarterback who's been reduced to something teams sign to generate hype and sell tickets. He's like an industry smut, teams passing him around just to say they've been with him. Jets traded for him cause their owner is an idiot and an attention whore. Now he'll eventually end up on another team looking for headlines and won't do shit there either.

Please please go to the Jags so Indy Horse can run a train on him twice a year.

Read my initial post in this thread, no I didn't. I've only responded to people who decided to unnecessarily bring him up.