Jets Trade Revis To Bucs For 1st Rounder, 6y/$96m, No Guaranteed Money

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  • TheImmortalGoud
    No longer a noob
    • Jan 2011
    • 1790

    #16

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    • EmpireWF
      Giants in the Super Bowl
      • Mar 2009
      • 24082

      #17
      Who is the Bucs best pass rusher?


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      • Aso
        The Serious House
        • Nov 2008
        • 11137

        #18
        Good trade for the Bucs. You wouldn't trade a first round pick for Revis? Are you gonna draft a CB as good as Revis?

        Comparing Revis to Asomugha on the Eagles is a piss poor bullshit argument that I'm tired of hearing. In 2009 Revis had one of the best cover seasons for a corner in a very long time. Revis has proven he can be thrown at over 100 times in a season and pretty much shut down opposing receivers.

        According to PFF on the 2011 Jets, a team with a shitty pass rush, Revis did this:

        Thrown at: 85
        Receptions: 35
        Completion %: 41.2
        TD's allowed: 1
        INT's: 4

        QB's had a 45.6 rating when throwing at Revis. He did this while covering an opponents BEST receiver.

        You're telling me he can't do anymore than just "contain" a teams best receiver? W2B and others with similar opinions are flat out wrong. Revis is the best CB a lot of you will have the privilege to ever watch. If his physical checks out you pull the trigger without a seconds thought.

        Personally I think Mark Dominick did a masterful job.

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        • EmpireWF
          Giants in the Super Bowl
          • Mar 2009
          • 24082

          #19
          On the bright side, TB does have plenty of cap space available. Beyond year 1, each year @ $16M is not guaranteed so they have an out in case he never fully recovers from the ACL injury. Big risk on his side.

          Even if this is a weak draft, the Jets had to get rid of him and they get a 1st (potentially a 3rd next year). Both sides have reason to be satisfied...tho immense pressure's on the new Jets GM to get the #13 pick right.


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          • RyanLeaf16
            #DoSomething
            • Feb 2009
            • 3211

            #20
            Some people get caught up in giving up a first round pick. Bottom line, when a team trades a 1st round pick, that player becomes their first round pick for that year. Essentially, the Bucs #1 pick this year was Darrelle Revis. Best CB in the league. I think the loss of conditional picks my sting more than the loss of the 1st round pick.
            Maddon & Friedman: Pissing off the AL East since 2008

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            • Warner2BruceTD
              2011 Poster Of The Year
              • Mar 2009
              • 26142

              #21
              Originally posted by Aso21Raiders
              Good trade for the Bucs. You wouldn't trade a first round pick for Revis? Are you gonna draft a CB as good as Revis?

              Comparing Revis to Asomugha on the Eagles is a piss poor bullshit argument that I'm tired of hearing. In 2009 Revis had one of the best cover seasons for a corner in a very long time. Revis has proven he can be thrown at over 100 times in a season and pretty much shut down opposing receivers.

              According to PFF on the 2011 Jets, a team with a shitty pass rush, Revis did this:

              Thrown at: 85
              Receptions: 35
              Completion %: 41.2
              TD's allowed: 1
              INT's: 4

              QB's had a 45.6 rating when throwing at Revis. He did this while covering an opponents BEST receiver.

              You're telling me he can't do anymore than just "contain" a teams best receiver? W2B and others with similar opinions are flat out wrong. Revis is the best CB a lot of you will have the privilege to ever watch. If his physical checks out you pull the trigger without a seconds thought.

              Personally I think Mark Dominick did a masterful job.
              How'd Revis grade out in 2012?

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              • Aso
                The Serious House
                • Nov 2008
                • 11137

                #22
                He played like 5 quarters

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                • Warner2BruceTD
                  2011 Poster Of The Year
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 26142

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Aso21Raiders
                  He played like 5 quarters
                  Kind of the point.

                  He's a 28-year old who plays a position predicated on speed, agility, & sharp cuts, who will be playing on a rebuilt knee.

                  I'm drafting a 20 year old (any position) with my first round pick and keeping my fourth rounder.

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                  • JimLeavy59
                    War Hero
                    • May 2012
                    • 7199

                    #24
                    This would be a good move if the Bucs were contenders in the NFC.

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                    • Aso
                      The Serious House
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 11137

                      #25
                      Plenty of players come back fine from his injury. The upside of this trade (getting the best CB in the league) outweights my concern for his knee. Dominick also has an easy out after 1 season.

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                      • Warner2BruceTD
                        2011 Poster Of The Year
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 26142

                        #26
                        Also, it's not just a direct comparison to Asomugha. The Eagles acquired three "elite" CB's that offseason, and proceeded to get shredded through the air anyway for the next two years.

                        Reasonable minds can differ on this, but in the fickle world of NFL finances, where you routinely cut 20% of the roster each offseason for cap reasons, i'm sure as shit not wasting my resources on the CB position in the modern league climate. Even 2009 Revis.

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                        • Warner2BruceTD
                          2011 Poster Of The Year
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 26142

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Aso21Raiders
                          Plenty of players come back fine from his injury. The upside of this trade (getting the best CB in the league) outweights my concern for his knee. Dominick also has an easy out after 1 season.
                          Right, he can wipe his hands clean of the money, but he's not getting those draft picks back.

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                          • Aso
                            The Serious House
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 11137

                            #28
                            If you wouldn't trade draft picks and 16 mil a year money for 2009 Revis then you're out of your skull. In 2009 Revis made Donald Strickland and Lito Sheppard serviceable(!). You are way undervaluing CB's it's insane.

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                            • St. Francisco
                              45-35 Never Forget
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 4753

                              #29
                              Best move I've seen the Jets front office make in a while. Two picks in the top thirteen, cleared up some cap space, and got value out of a player who was likely gone at the end of this season anyway.

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                              • JBregz
                                Follow me! @JBregzz
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 3837

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Aso21Raiders
                                If you wouldn't trade draft picks and 16 mil a year money for 2009 Revis then you're out of your skull. In 2009 Revis made Donald Strickland and Lito Sheppard serviceable(!). You are way undervaluing CB's it's insane.
                                And that was four years ago when he was 24 years old and didn't have major ACL surgery to his knee. I can think of two CB's who were once very solid options to their team and now are out of the league because of it: Dominique Foxworth (has had like 3+ surgeries since I believe before retiring) and Al Harris (became slow, useless for us and tore another ACL in the process). Before that? Both great options at corner.

                                It's hard to justify CB's that type of elite QB money.

                                Starting CBs that have won SB's the past 5 seasons:
                                Corey Graham, Cary Williams
                                Corey Webster, Aaron Ross (was this the year Giants had big issues in the secondary?)
                                Charles Woodson, Tramon Williams (Only strong CB duo out of this list imo)
                                Jabari Greer, Tracy Porter
                                Ike Taylor, Bryant McFadden

                                Just something to think about.

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