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  • Glenbino
    Jelly and Ice Cream
    • Nov 2009
    • 4994

    #31
    Originally posted by Tailback U
    You're acting like playing fullback is the toughest position in sports.

    Players switch positions all the time in football. Someone intelligent enough to play the QB position should be intelligent enough to play fullback. Quarterbacks have turned into fullbacks (Michael Robinson), wide receivers into fullbacks (Marcel Reece), tight ends into OTackles (Joe Staley), safeties/receivers into linebackers (Brian Urlacher), etc., etc.

    Tebow's biggest asset is his toughness and leadership. I have little doubt that he could be a great fullback if he wanted to.
    How many teams even use a fullback these days?

    I'd much rather convert a college TE that has more athletic ability, some experience running a route, pass blocking and catching the ball before I would even think about welcoming the Tebow circus to my backfield.

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    • Tailback U
      No substitute 4 strength.
      • Nov 2008
      • 10282

      #32
      Originally posted by Glenbino
      How many teams even use a fullback these days?

      I'd much rather convert a college TE that has more athletic ability, some experience running a route, pass blocking and catching the ball before I would even think about welcoming the Tebow circus to my backfield.
      That's not really what I'm arguing against, though.

      And what if he is a great fullback, better than the TE you're trying to convert?

      I also think the Tebow circus would eventually fizzle out after his first season at fullback. It would get old pretty quickly. It'd be a pretty boring story by year 2 to be honest.

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      • Rayman
        Spic 'n Spanish
        • Feb 2009
        • 4626

        #33
        Originally posted by Tailback U
        Like what? List some examples.

        Have they been wrong before? Of course. But does that mean that you people that sit here and watch him play 11 days a year know more than guys that watch him day in and day out for years?
        Well...



        In all seriousness, if you know more than them, go apply for their jobs.



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        • ram29jackson
          Noob
          • Nov 2008
          • 0

          #34
          Originally posted by Rayman
          Well...



          In all seriousness, if you know more than them, go apply for their jobs.
          the fact is you don't have to know a lot. You get those jobs-so called by having the most money and abusing it. It must be obvious that 20 teams owners don't know crap because they hardly have consistent success. While others constantly cycle and regroup
          Last edited by ram29jackson; 06-01-2013, 04:41 PM.

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          • ralaw
            Posts too much
            • Feb 2009
            • 6663

            #35
            I agree with FT and Omar. He had a great run, but there were unique circumstances surrounding that success and once teams figured it out he was done. It has been proven that you can win temporarily with a gimmick, but eventually you have to be able to pass the ball at a good efficiency, as this isn't highschool or college football. I don't understand why some are so willing to keep giving this guy chances at QB.

            He isn't a starting QB and the fandom and media circus surrounding him prevents him from being the weapon that he should be in certain situations.

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            • Houston
              Back home
              • Oct 2008
              • 21231

              #36
              Originally posted by Tailback U
              Ok so you're right and everyone else is wrong and you've proved it.
              That's definitely the point I was getting at.....

              Don't worry straw man, I'm sure the wizard will give you a brain one day.

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              • Tailback U
                No substitute 4 strength.
                • Nov 2008
                • 10282

                #37
                Originally posted by Houston
                That's definitely the point I was getting at.....

                Don't worry straw man, I'm sure the wizard will give you a brain one day.
                Funny you labeling me a straw man when the guy we are talking about is not playing on a single NFL team because of the points I'm making.

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                • Houston
                  Back home
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 21231

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Tailback U
                  the guy we are talking about is not playing on a single NFL team because of the points I'm making.
                  I've seen analysis, coaches and former players(who have been involved with the game for literally decades), who have said that the only reason more teams aren't willing to take a chance on Tebow is because of the media circus. Sorry but I'm going to side with those who were born and raised by people who taught professional football players how to play the game over you who have never coached a day in your life.

                  See how easily your dumb argument can be flipped on you? That is my point....

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                  • JeremyHight
                    I wish I was Scrubs
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 4063

                    #39
                    Teams lined up to sign Mike Vick despite the media circus, despite being out of the game, despite past questions about his ability to perform at a consistent level, even despite injury concerns because he had talent that could be useful to an NFL team. If no one is willing to sign Tebow, it isn't because of the media circus, isn't because of rust, isn't because of consistency, it is because they don't think he can be useful.

                    This is a cutthroat league. Teams will do anything if it means winning one more game or making people waste gameplanning time preparing for some bench player. If they aren't even willing to use a roster spot on this guy, it means he isn't useful.

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                    • Mogriffjr
                      aka Reece
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 2759

                      #40
                      I think the moment he recognizes he's not going to get a chance as a QB and tells teams he'll be whatever the coaching staff asks, that's when teams will check in on him and he could make an NFL roster.
                      Originally posted by Nick Mangold
                      Wes Welker is a great player. He's really taken advantage of watching film. If we don't keep a Spy on him, he could really open the Gate.

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                      • ram29jackson
                        Noob
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 0

                        #41
                        what are you pinheads waiting for ? go find his facebook fanpage etc and spam him to change positions and get his ass back in the NFL !

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                        • Glenbino
                          Jelly and Ice Cream
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 4994

                          #42
                          Originally posted by JeremyHight
                          Teams lined up to sign Mike Vick despite the media circus, despite being out of the game, despite past questions about his ability to perform at a consistent level, even despite injury concerns because he had talent that could be useful to an NFL team. If no one is willing to sign Tebow, it isn't because of the media circus, isn't because of rust, isn't because of consistency, it is because they don't think he can be useful.

                          This is a cutthroat league. Teams will do anything if it means winning one more game or making people waste gameplanning time preparing for some bench player. If they aren't even willing to use a roster spot on this guy, it means he isn't useful.
                          This is a solid point...

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                          • Senser81
                            VSN Poster of the Year
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 12804

                            #43
                            I've always thought that having a running QB as a backup QB would be useful in the NFL. If your starter gets hurt, the backup QB comes into the game and you don't really have to worry as much about timing with WRs, reading defenses, etc. Have Tebow run a conservative offense where he doesn't turn the ball over and rely on your defense to win. This theory was severely tested with Joe Webb's performance against GB in the playoffs, but I think with Colin Kaepernick's success that a guy like Tebow would still be in demand.

                            Maybe Tebow can be the next Jim Jensen?

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                            • Rayman
                              Spic 'n Spanish
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 4626

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Houston
                              I've seen analysis, coaches and former players(who have been involved with the game for literally decades), who have said that the only reason more teams aren't willing to take a chance on Tebow is because of the media circus. Sorry but I'm going to side with those who were born and raised by people who taught professional football players how to play the game over you who have never coached a day in your life.

                              See how easily your dumb argument can be flipped on you? That is my point....
                              You're totally misconstruing what those guys are saying. They say he'd be worth taking a shot on AS A DEVELOPMENTAL PROSPECT/3RD QB... if not for the stuff that comes with him. That's the whole point.



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                              • Tailback U
                                No substitute 4 strength.
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 10282

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Rayman
                                You're totally misconstruing what those guys are saying. They say he'd be worth taking a shot on AS A DEVELOPMENTAL PROSPECT/3RD QB... if not for the stuff that comes with him. That's the whole point.
                                He's trying hard to make a stupid argument even dumber. Ain't nobody got time for dat.

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