Report: NFL Pressured ESPN Into Backing Out Of Concussion Film

[Glenbino]

Until some poor kicker takes the crown of a helmet in the face. One step closer to gladiatorial combat.

It's not a problem for rugby. Obviously if you modified the equipment you modify, if not completely change, the way the game is played.

I'm not arguing for the helmets/facemasks to be removed from the game, but I have no doubt in my mind that just taking away the facemasks would cut down on the number of head injuries.

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[FedEx227]

Again, I'm not saying they should get rid of helmets just saying if they ACTUALLY wanted to take measurable steps to make it safer that's what you'd have to do.

I don't care. My kids aren't going to be the ones kill themselves for your enjoyment.

[SethMode]

I can appreciate wanting to "fix" the problem, but at some point you have to realize that it would no longer be football. Dale Earnhardt would still be alive if they were riding bikes around in circles, and JA Happ wouldn't have been in the hospital if they used nerf or tennis balls instead of baseballs. At some point, we have to just allow these GROWN ASS MEN to accept personal responsiblility for their actions, and recognize that they can make money playing this game that they love, but that there might be a cost.

[Houston]

The NFL has thwarted/denied independent concussion research for decades, that's what most of the lawsuits center around.

Ok, but that's all in the past now(or will be eventually).

Moving forward all players know the deal. There's no excuses if you're a new player just entering the league. Not only is no one forcing you to play, but you could've got a complete college education and alot did. It's not like they have no other options.

[NAHSTE]

Ok, but that's all in the past now(or will be eventually).

Which is why former players, who played in the past, are suing now. And the NFL is still thwarting sound independent scientific research. The "studies" they are conducting in-house are purely for appearance. It's basically a joke, but I guess it is good enough to satisfy the Shield shills.

[Goober]

Really the only way to truly make the game safer for heads in all levels is to eliminate helmets.

Or you can just be smart and not let your kids play and have the brain-dead hillrods from the South kill each other for our pleasure.

SOUTHERN SAVAGE NEGROS

[ralaw]

Again, I'm not saying they should get rid of helmets just saying if they ACTUALLY wanted to take measurable steps to make it safer that's what you'd have to do.

I don't care. My kids aren't going to be the ones kill themselves for your enjoyment.

I guess your kids won't be playing any sport that requires contact or projectiles that could cause damage.

The way that I see it is that by playing sports you are exposing yourself to long term injury, whether it be a head injury, knee, ankle, etc. you can't compete if your concern is injury. Millions of people have played football for decades and the overwhelming majority have lead productive lives.

[Tailback U]

Tailback, you, like many others, are focusing too heavily on BIG concussions as the source for most of the damage. It's not that. It's the sub concussive hits from constantly/repeated/smaller hits to the head. Most of those occur helmet to helmet because people are leading with their head. Those are the ones that cause brain damage and CTE in kids and literally every football player not some big gigantic concussion or a knee to the head.

The New Orleans Saints were just caught for putting bounties on people. It's scary to think about what some of these guys would do to another guy without a helmet on as he comes across the field. Clothesline, headshots, etc. would be even more dangerous.

And what about the shoulder pads? Should they eliminate those, too, since helmets are?

It's just a silly road to go down so let's not even go there in the first place.

[Warner2BruceTD]

The New Orleans Saints were just caught for putting bounties on people. It's scary to think about what some of these guys would do to another guy without a helmet on as he comes across the field. Clothesline, headshots, etc. would be even more dangerous.

And what about the shoulder pads? Should they eliminate those, too, since helmets are?

It's just a silly road to go down so let's not even go there in the first place.

Nobody is saying to go down that road, what people are saying is that is the only thing that will severely eliminate serious head injuries.

Personally I think the concussion issues are overblown and not nearly as bad as we are led to believe, but with that said I also don't care if grown men willingly choose to take that risk. And you can't play football your entire life, and then hop on a lawsuit if you played three years in the NFL or spent ten minutes on a training camp roster for one summer. That's a joke, I can't take these guys seriously.

[killgod]

It's not a problem for rugby. Obviously if you modified the equipment you modify, if not completely change, the way the game is played.

I'm not arguing for the helmets/facemasks to be removed from the game, but I have no doubt in my mind that just taking away the facemasks would cut down on the number of head injuries.

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a) They don't wear helmets in rugby, you said to remove facemasks. So....que?

b) When they line up for a scrum in rugby, the align with their heads down and not direct to another persons head, so that doesn't happen. Football is head on.

[Glenbino]

a) They don't wear helmets in rugby, you said to remove facemasks. So....que?

b) When they line up for a scrum in rugby, the align with their heads down and not direct to another persons head, so that doesn't happen. Football is head on.

1) They don't wear helmets and have somehow found a method to not get players killed.. that was my point in regards to your kicker analogy.

2) Read the whole first paragraph where I said the way the game is played would have to be altered if helmets eradicated.

..still I'm not even pushing for these changes, just making an observation. I like football the way it is.

[FedEx227]

I guess your kids won't be playing any sport that requires contact or projectiles that could cause damage.

Can you show me a list of dead MLB or NBA players who had CTE? You honestly can't be equating ankle pain the rest of your life to having a mushy brain.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I've often been a proponent of stripping pro football players down of the NASA researched protection they have. Athletes were not having their brains turn to mush when they were wearing leather helmets.

We've basically wrapped these players up in Styrofoam and as a result, these bigger, stronger, faster athletes use themselves as projectiles in the game of football. In the third grade, we've all done the egg-drop experiment...the egg will still break, no matter how much Styrofoam you wrap it up in.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Junior Seau didn't have one diagnosed concussion his entire career. That isn't to say he didn't have them...but its besides the point, really...every player will have a few concussions they don't report. Nature of the game. The micro-concussions, the constant brain rattling does the real damage. The brain trauma that doesn't go noticed by the player or any catscan during their career. You start compounding the micro-concussions and these guy's brains turn to mush.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

The New Orleans Saints were just caught for putting bounties on people. It's scary to think about what some of these guys would do to another guy without a helmet on as he comes across the field. Clothesline, headshots, etc. would be even more dangerous.

And what about the shoulder pads? Should they eliminate those, too, since helmets are?

It's just a silly road to go down so let's not even go there in the first place.

Minimalize the shoulder pads, too.

To me, its not just the helmets that are an issue...the entire pro football player is now covered in protection that, while it protects the exterior from "now" pain and injuries, it compounds exponentially the "later" pain and injuries, all of which are much, MUCH more severe and shorten life expectancy.

Look at a player's attire from the 1940's then look at one now. Players are bigger, faster, stronger...yeah...but players are also wearing inches of padding more, padding that is NASA approved. Yeah, it helps with injuries now. But, like I said, if you've ever done the egg drop experiment, you know what happens to the egg when you wrap it up in Styrofoam...it still breaks.