Why are college athletes not unionized?

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  • steeljake
    6 rings...
    • Oct 2008
    • 8752

    #31
    at what point do we say that it is not what you think you are entitled to but istead what you earn that you deserve? the fact that this thread was started by gay bleeding heart wanna-be entitled liberal is no shock to me.


    23:33 OnlyOneBeerLeft: jake nobody listens to you aint you supposed to die from cancer or somethin soon?

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    • bucky
      #50? WTF?
      • Feb 2009
      • 5408

      #32
      Originally posted by Senser81
      BTW, what other people's 'hit list' have I made? Or are you pulling a Point Blank and refusing to name names.
      Hey Buddy.....Better question.....Who's hit list aren't you on? That's all part of the charm that is senser!!!!

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      • KINGOFOOTBALL
        Junior Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 10343

        #33
        Than find something else to do. Community college and working at Walmart is still an option , so is slingin rock and gang banging.
        OR
        Attend a university with your education room and board paid for.

        Dont like it ,leave noone is forcing them into labor or cutting off there options.

        My only change would be to make sure they have full medical benefits while they attend.

        If these kids arent smart enough to take advantage of the educational opportunities than frankly its further proof they were probably not college bound to begin with.
        Best reason to have a license.

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        • LiquidLarry2GhostWF
          Highwayman
          • Feb 2009
          • 15428

          #34
          I can understand football, all you have is arena or canadian football really...but basketball players and athletes in other sports can always go pro...basketball...go the Brandon Jennings way if you want...

          Hockey? Go overseas and play with the Euros. Futbol, the same way. baseball, go pro. Go indy league.

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          • Prodigal Son
            The Greatest
            • Feb 2009
            • 2338

            #35
            I think fans should create a union. We are the one's that are leading to the major portion of the profit received. We should get paid to go to games since we're the one's helping the teams make money.

            Then divide by zero.

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            • JeremyHight
              I wish I was Scrubs
              • Feb 2009
              • 4063

              #36
              College Athletes should get a cut of the profits!

              ... the sad truth is, though, that most Athletic Departments LOSE money. Yes, men's basketball or football can bring in money, but then you talk about women's gymnastics or men's swimming and you are talking about major money pits for the university.

              Texas and Ohio State both lost money on athletics the year they won the football national championships.

              Until all athletics start gaining money for the university, you cannot argue for more pay for college athletes.

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              • NAHSTE
                Probably owns the site
                • Feb 2009
                • 22233

                #37
                Originally posted by JeremyHight
                College Athletes should get a cut of the profits!

                ... the sad truth is, though, that most Athletic Departments LOSE money. Yes, men's basketball or football can bring in money, but then you talk about women's gymnastics or men's swimming and you are talking about major money pits for the university.

                Texas and Ohio State both lost money on athletics the year they won the football national championships.

                Until all athletics start gaining money for the university, you cannot argue for more pay for college athletes.
                That's crazy because exactly one year before Ohio State won I read a report that said they were the most profitable AD in the NCAA. Georgia, Texas and Michigan were in the top 5 also IIRC.

                I realize a lot of ADs lose money but I thought Ohio State was one of the more better off.

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                • Sven Draconian
                  Not a Scandanavian
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 1319

                  #38
                  That would actually violate Title IX if I remember correctly. The male athletes would have unfair benefits over the female athletes if the University allowed only certain sports to get paid.

                  Equality=Fail.

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                  • JeremyHight
                    I wish I was Scrubs
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 4063

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Spencer
                    The players could unionize in order to retain just the rights to their identities and ability to market them. Then they could earn money from jersey sales, video games, sponsorships, &c. I can understand arguing that a university has no more obligation to its players than providing an education, but does a university have the right to forbid the player from using his own image to make money? And only so that the university can take that money, instead? How is that fair in the least bit?
                    It isn't the player's jersey, it is the universities. And even then, it is very arguable that it is because of the player. For instance, do you think Laurinitis jerseys would be sold nearly as much if he was on UTEP or Akron? Most people buy these jerseys for the university, not for the specific player.

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                    • Saluki
                      Ball So Hard
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 9445

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Spencer
                      It's not an accident that the best players sell the most jerseys. Fans often have the option of buying generic jerseys, but many still opt for names. It's only part of a larger plan of giving the players the right to market their identity which, regardless of the reason for jersey sales, athletes should have. It extends beyond simple jersey sales.
                      No they don't. NCAA can't sell a current students jersey with their name on it.

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                      • Saluki
                        Ball So Hard
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 9445

                        #41
                        I don't even know why this thread is still active, your argument has more holes than swiss cheese.

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                        • Sven Draconian
                          Not a Scandanavian
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 1319

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Saluki
                          I don't even know why this thread is still active, your argument has more holes than swiss cheese.
                          *SHHHH* he's a sophisticated intellectual who makes arguments that us mere, "normies" who haven't been persecuted by society can't understand.

                          If you were gay, you'd understand why this argument makes sense.

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                          • bringbackjimmy
                            Junior Member
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 451

                            #43
                            College tuition is good enogh.. they are playing a gad damn game for crying out loud. They get to go to a prestiogous school like Michigan, penn state, USC, Notre Dame. IF they smart they use that free schooling to actually improve their lives than they can do something with their lives after football. If they want to be paid before going to the NFL go join the CFL...

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                            • JBauerisGod
                              ...is amazing.
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 1521

                              #44
                              One of the things that I love about college football is the fact that the athletes are playing the game for the sake of the game. Some athletes obviously have the NFL in the back of their minds, but they are still working towards something. When I watch the NFL, I can't help but feel like some of the players are simply going through the motions, waiting to collect their massive paycheck.

                              Paying college athletes may cause them to lose some interest. Maybe they'll start taking plays off, knowing that in the end they'll still get a check. Psychological studies have shown that once a person starts receiving payment for something that they love, their interest in that activity decreases.

                              Would some third string nobody get the same compensation as Mark Sanchez? That's where a problem exists. If a two or three star recruit has the choice between going to USC and being stuck on the practice squad or San Jose State and starting for three or four years, some would choose USC just for the fact that they would get a much greater share of the revenue at USC than they would at SJSU.

                              As others have pointed out, the university isn't selling Mark Sanchez's jersey. Technically, they are selling a USC jersey with the number six on it. That creates problems because Mark Sanchez wasn't the first USC player to ever wear the number six. Who's to say these people aren't paying for a jersey that represents a former player who wore number six?

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                              • Youk
                                Posts too much
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 7998

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Spencer
                                All I'm asking is for a cogent explanation why allowing athletes to market their image would be damaging to the sport of college football. That's all. It's not that much. Someone here should be able to provide it.
                                You should read the past four pages.

                                And the top of this one.

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