So where does Vick end up? [Who wants him?/Who will get him?]

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  • Point Blank
    Needs a hobby
    • Oct 2008
    • 14184

    #16
    We'll see.

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    • Aso
      The Serious House
      • Nov 2008
      • 11137

      #17
      Probably because Vick went to jail and can run a 4.30 fourty. Thats my guess.

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      • Point Blank
        Needs a hobby
        • Oct 2008
        • 14184

        #18
        No big reason, I just think he's going there. Sorry if I offended your Raider..:laugh:
        Last edited by Point Blank; 04-03-2009, 08:03 PM.

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        • dave
          Go the fuck outside
          • Oct 2008
          • 15492

          #19
          San Francisco 49ers ... as a quarterback.

          He was a legitimate top 12 QB in the league before his stupidity, regardless of what the naysayers claim.
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          • Liquidrob
            Izzy is a bum
            • Feb 2009
            • 11785

            #20
            Originally posted by dave
            San Francisco 49ers ... as a quarterback.

            He was a legitimate top 12 QB in the league before his stupidity, regardless of what the naysayers claim.
            please dave, just stop, he was an average QB at best, saying someone even is the 12th best QB in the lg isnt even compliment anyway

            lol @ top 12, who the fuck ever says top 12?
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            • j.hen
              Self Care
              • Oct 2008
              • 10058

              #21
              Vick had his best year overall of his career in terms of both passing (20 TDs/13 INTs) and rushing (1000+ yards) the last year that he played in the league.

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              • Aso
                The Serious House
                • Nov 2008
                • 11137

                #22
                Vick was just a different kind of quarterback. Without a doubt top 10 when he played.

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                • Bear Pand
                  RIP Indy Colts
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 5945

                  #23
                  Originally posted by raiderfan7
                  To the broncos. Orton flames out and they attempt to bring in Vick to save them but he ultimately runs them into the ground even farther.

                  /wishful thinking.

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                  • NAHSTE
                    Probably owns the site
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 22233

                    #24
                    Anyone who doesn't think Vick at his best is a top 10 QB is kidding themselves. Despite what people say he was a serviceable QB and a possesses a higher win % than Drew Brees or Jay Cutler.

                    Not going to get into a multipage argument about this, but I think it is laughable that people think Vick should change positions. Anyone who has the arm that he has should be behind center. His arm is arguably as NFL elite as his feet. Only thing he was lacking was accuracy, and that is coachable. Let's not forget he had Greg "I Will Get My Head Coach Fired" Knapp as his coordinator.

                    With decent coaching, there might still be some productivity left to be salvaged from Mike Vick. Must I mention he can literally throw while running.

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                    • Liquidrob
                      Izzy is a bum
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 11785

                      #25
                      he was not accurate, could not read a defense, could not learn an offense, fumbled the ball alot, etc...

                      he was not a top 10 QB, ever

                      winning %, lol, sounds like the same arguement for guys like Jay Fiedler
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                      • NAHSTE
                        Probably owns the site
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 22233

                        #26
                        Originally posted by blitzrique
                        There's a dichotomy in that statement. An elite NFL arm must be accurate. Accuracy is the most important facet after fast [sound] decision making and leadership, no?
                        While I'll agree, I'll also say that the term "NFL Arm" usually refers to a guy who can "make all the throws"

                        Why would you play a guy at RB/WR when he can routinely throw the ball 70 yards? It's not like he was atrocious as a passer, just merely average. With proper coaching he could squeeze into "above average" territory as a passer with elite speed and arm strength.

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                        • Liquidrob
                          Izzy is a bum
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 11785

                          #27
                          Originally posted by NAHSTE13
                          While I'll agree, I'll also say that the term "NFL Arm" usually refers to a guy who can "make all the throws"

                          Why would you play a guy at RB/WR when he can routinely throw the ball 70 yards? It's not like he was atrocious as a passer, just merely average. With proper coaching he could squeeze into "above average" territory as a passer with elite speed and arm strength.
                          how many times a game does a QB throw it 70 yards a game? how about 50? 40?

                          and they also have to throw it to the WR where he can catch it, all the coaching Vick has had did not make him more accurate

                          now he has been out of the game for a couple years, is older, and would have to learn another offense he has no idea how to run

                          only viable option for him would be a WR/RB/PR, he was a project years ago, now he would be even a bigger project
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                          • Liquidrob
                            Izzy is a bum
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 11785

                            #28
                            Vicks completion %

                            2001 - 44.2
                            2002 - 54.9
                            2003 - 50.0
                            2004 - 56.4
                            2005 - 55.3
                            2006 - 52.6

                            In his 'best' year he had a 56.4 %, that would put him .3 above Dan Orlovsky last season
                            Last edited by Liquidrob; 04-04-2009, 12:38 AM.
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                            • NAHSTE
                              Probably owns the site
                              • Feb 2009
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Liquidrob
                              how many times a game does a QB throw it 70 yards a game? how about 50? 40?

                              and they also have to throw it to the WR where he can catch it, all the coaching Vick has had did not make him more accurate

                              now he has been out of the game for a couple years, is older, and would have to learn another offense he has no idea how to run

                              only viable option for him would be a WR/RB/PR, he was a project years ago, now he would be even a bigger project
                              LOL at calling a playoff winning QB a "project"

                              I would think making him learn an entirely new position at 28 would be more of a project then having him resume playing the same position he's played his whole life. Anyone who thinks he'd be able to learn who to play WR or RB and be successful is reaching.

                              And you can't compare Dan Orlovsky to Vick because Orlovsky didn't run for 1,000 yards either or take his team to an NFC Championship Game.

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                              • Liquidrob
                                Izzy is a bum
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 11785

                                #30
                                Originally posted by NAHSTE13
                                LOL at calling a playoff winning QB a "project"

                                I would think making him learn an entirely new position at 28 would be more of a project then having him resume playing the same position he's played his whole life. Anyone who thinks he'd be able to learn who to play WR or RB and be successful is reaching.
                                yes, a project, when you cant learn an offense or have to learn a new offense again, you are a project

                                when your comp % never hits 60% after 5 years, you're still a project

                                vick never showed signs of advancing his skill set, he actually regressed for a couple years after his first full season of play

                                vick is still a project
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