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  • Hasselbeck
    Jus' bout dat action boss
    • Feb 2009
    • 6175

    Chiefs leaning .... Tyson Jackson at #3?

    Would definitely change the rest of the Top 10

    Gil Brandt Tips Chiefs' Hand?



    There has been much speculation as to what the Chiefs will be doing with the 3rd pick of the draft. Most have projected Kansas City to take Wake Forest linebacker Aaron Curry. Some, myself included, have projected them to take Virginia offensive tackle Eugene Monroe.

    A new contender has arisen, however, in LSU defensive end Tyson Jackson.

    Though many view Jackson as a significant reach for a top five pick, Gil Brandt didn't seem to think so, telling the listening audience of his Sirius radio program that Jackson is a "top five pick. Put that in the bank."

    The comment, in itself, is interesting but not specific to any team -- other than those within the top five, of course.

    But considering that Jackson fits best as a defensive end in the 3-4 and that there are only two teams using the 3-4 in the top five (Kansas City and Cleveland), the options for where Brandt believes Jackson is going are limited.

    New Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli is facing the tough task of molding a team built around a 4-3 scheme into the 3-4 alignment he helped build in New England. Pioli has a track record of using first round picks on the defensive line, utilizing first rounders to build standout trio of Richard Seymour, Vince Wilfork and Ty Warren. Jackson has been described to me by veteran scouts as a virtual clone of the Patriots' Ty Warren.

    Considering the widespread belief that the Browns are focusing on either USC quarterback Mark Sanchez or Texas Tech wide receiver Michael Crabtree with the fifth pick, Brandt would appear to be referring to the Chiefs with his comment -- not that it really matters. The Lions and Rams aren't likely to consider Jackson with the first two picks of the draft and no team is going to offer up the collection of picks necessary to trade into the top two picks to get ahead of the Chiefs to nab Jackson
    Originally posted by ram29jackson
    I already said months ago that Seattle wasn't winning any SB
  • Leftwich
    Bring on the Season

    • Oct 2008
    • 13700

    #2
    I think they're throwing up a smoke screen to try to get some team to trade and reach for him.

    Originally posted by Tailback U
    It won't say shit, because dying is for pussies.

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    • DSpydr84
      I need a sub
      • Oct 2008
      • 2605

      #3
      "Reaches" have never been a big deal to me, because a "reach" is when a team grabs a player before an expert would have (unless you do your own scouting, this is the only information we can compare it with). And we all know how great the experts are...

      I know this is just what Gil Brandt said, but if Kansas City really believes Tyson Jackson is "their guy", then pull the trigger. He's not gonna be there in round 3 when you're back on the clock, why not take the guy who you feel is best for your team?

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      • PNovak
        No longer a noob
        • Dec 2008
        • 1941

        #4
        I understand the need to keep your top choices a secret but there is no need to lie about who you are interested in. It seems that is the case with a lot of teams. Just keep your mouth shut or say you are interested in multiple players. This, "we really like Mark Sanchez" to make Curry fall to you crap is pretty gay. I just used that as an example. Not picking on the Hawks or anything.
        I LOVE VSN

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        • celtsxpatsxsox
          Redsox
          • Oct 2008
          • 3310

          #5
          Originally posted by DSpydr84
          "Reaches" have never been a big deal to me, because a "reach" is when a team grabs a player before an expert would have (unless you do your own scouting, this is the only information we can compare it with). And we all know how great the experts are...

          I know this is just what Gil Brandt said, but if Kansas City really believes Tyson Jackson is "their guy", then pull the trigger. He's not gonna be there in round 3 when you're back on the clock, why not take the guy who you feel is best for your team?
          totally agree with that. Look at the patriots draft last year. Some said it was a reach to draft Mayo in the top ten and some mocks didnt even have him going in the first. But Mayo ended up being the best defensive rookie in the league.

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          • Blick
            The Judge
            • Mar 2009
            • 1557

            #6
            There's no way the Chiefs take Jackson at 3. We're not playing a traditional 2 gap 3-4 defense, so we don't need a traditional 5 tech DE.

            They allegedly like Jackson a lot, but they would probably trade down to get him.

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            • Aso
              The Serious House
              • Nov 2008
              • 11137

              #7
              Yea all this means is that it improves the Chiefs chances of trading down. He can play 3-4 end and 4-3 end so he would be ideal for the KC defense as they are gonna be using a mix of both the 4-3 and 3-4.


              EDIT: Reportedly Dan Snyder and the Redskins are in love with Sanchez and would want to move to try to pursue Sanchez. The most likely trade scenario is the Chiefs trading down to #13 (then maybe selecting Jackson) and get a 2010 first round pick and the Redskins select Sanchez at #3.
              Last edited by Aso; 04-20-2009, 08:26 AM.

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              • LiquidLarry2GhostWF
                Highwayman
                • Feb 2009
                • 15429

                #8
                They probably love Jackson, but I doubt they take him @ #3. In the end, they'll end up taking the guy they've been projected to take, despite might not fitting in exactly how they'd prefer.

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                • Senser81
                  VSN Poster of the Year
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 12804

                  #9
                  Originally posted by celtsxpatsxsox
                  totally agree with that. Look at the patriots draft last year. Some said it was a reach to draft Mayo in the top ten and some mocks didnt even have him going in the first. But Mayo ended up being the best defensive rookie in the league.
                  Big difference between a team coming off an 18-1 season and a team thats been bad for 5 years. Also a big difference between the #3 and #10 picks. Its tougher to make a reach when desperately need a productive player. Easier to take chances when you already have a Super Bowl team and you are picking later in the 1st round.

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                  • Blick
                    The Judge
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 1557

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Nick
                    If Gil Brandt says it, it usually doesn't take much more to get me on board. But I can't see this one without a trade down. And I think a trade with Washington puts them too far down, because Jackson is a realistic option for teams like Green Bay and Denver @ 9 and 12 respectively.
                    Agreed. I don't think the Chiefs will be targeting a specific player while moving down, though. I think they'll just be happy to move out of the 3 spot.

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                    • DSpydr84
                      I need a sub
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 2605

                      #11
                      Oakland or Jacksonville moving up to get Crabtree? It's something to think about...

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                      • Hasselbeck
                        Jus' bout dat action boss
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 6175

                        #12
                        I'm rooting for Jackson to the Chiefs just to see Blick's head explode.
                        Originally posted by ram29jackson
                        I already said months ago that Seattle wasn't winning any SB

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                        • Matt10
                          Gittin my draft on
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 1926

                          #13
                          ordinarily I would say "Oh...that's the Chiefs for you..."

                          But this time around, it's way different, no Peterson...but Pioli...eh - okay, let's just see how this pans out.

                          I agree though with the notion that this could be trade material.

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                          • Blick
                            The Judge
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 1557

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Hasselbeck
                            I'm rooting for Jackson to the Chiefs just to see Blick's head explode.
                            I actually wouldn't mind the pick that much.

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                            • dMerch
                              yaFACE
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 1365

                              #15
                              curry IMO is the best player in the draft, i would take him at 1

                              look at what the lions have done with their drafts, take a safe choice in a player that is guaranteed difference maker

                              gt;dMerch
                              aim;swmsfootball76

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