PFT: Garcia On Track To Take Job From JaMarcus?

**Goober** · 05-14-2009, 07:10 PM

Originally posted by vamprb

The best part is nobody expects anything out of the raiders. People expect alot out of the broncos while they collapse and miss the playoffs and then do dumb shit in the offseason.

Well have fun being the laughing stock in the NFL for another 7 years. Whether or not you agree with what Josh McDaniels has done, he's bringing a team first Patriot's mentality to Denver, we will see how it works on the field. But one thing is for certain, the raiders will suck again in 2009.

**vamprb** · 05-14-2009, 07:19 PM

Originally posted by Goblinslayer

Good idea, since it's not like the NFL wasn't a completely different game back then, compared to now. Elway and the rest of the QBs playing in the '80s weren't protected by the refs, with bs roughing the passer and pass interference calls.

In Elway's first two seasons in the NFL, he had 25 touchdown passes.
russell has thrown 15.

The stats don't lie, russell has been down right terrible, and can't throw down field in the NFL. Make an excuse for those stats. I don't give a shit who your WRs are. Jake Plummer threw for 4,500 yards with Ashley Lelie, and Rod Smith, who was on the verge of breaking his hip (Smith was a great WR, but he was slowing down a lot at this point in his career), as his WRs. Meanwhile russell had a WR whose making 55 million, so he must be good. Oh wait Javon Walker sucks, and the raiders were stupid enough to give him 4 times what he's worth. LOL!

Elway played more games in his 1st 2 seasons than Russell did so he should have more tds. Why didn't you mention the fact that he threw more INTs also.

**Goober** · 05-14-2009, 07:28 PM

Originally posted by vamprb

Elway played more games in his 1st 2 seasons than Russell did so he should have more tds. Why didn't you mention the fact that he threw more INTs also.

Elway actually had the balls to throw it down field too. russell seemed content to throw 3 completions, each for a three yard gain, and then jog to the sideline so he could eat more donuts.

**vamprb** · 05-14-2009, 07:30 PM

Originally posted by Goblinslayer

Well have fun being the laughing stock in the NFL for another 7 years. Whether or not you agree with what Josh McDaniels has done, he's bringing a team first Patriot's mentality to Denver, we will see how it works on the field. But one thing is for certain, the raiders will suck again in 2009.

Its not like the broncos were never the laughing stock of the NFL or anything. You can say what you want about the raiders not being good but the broncos haven't been world beaters themselves.

**vamprb** · 05-14-2009, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by MVPete

You can still be a Raiders fan even if you think Russell sucks, not sure why you guys are so quick to defend this guy. At what point do you guys who are still defending him give it up? At the end of this season? Next season? When?

I don't judge any player at any position on any team after just 1 year of play.
Its not that I'm trying to defend him, all I'm saying is give him a chance.

**Goober** · 05-14-2009, 07:37 PM

Originally posted by vamprb

I don't judge any player at any position on any team after just 1 year of play.

That's cool I'm still waiting for you to make an excuse for russell's terrible passing stats. The dude simply could not throw down field.

**Hasselbeck** · 05-14-2009, 07:39 PM

Originally posted by blitzrique

The trainwreck in Oakland continues...

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/...from-jamarcus/

You mean.. the Raiders finally realized Jamarcus Russell is a piece of shit?

That's actually a good sign for Raider fans.. sadly there are 100 other things to worry about

**Goober** · 05-14-2009, 07:40 PM

Originally posted by vamprb

Its not like the broncos were never the laughing stock of the NFL or anything. You can say what you want about the raiders not being good but the broncos haven't been world beaters themselves.

Despite having several bad drafts, and giving a few bums big contracts in free agency, the Broncos were always competitive, under Mike Shanahan's 14 years as head coach. They only had a losing record two times, in those 14 years. The raiders on the other hand, have changed coach, every other year, for the past 7 years, and have become the laughing stock of the NFL. I'm proud to say that never happened to the Broncos.

**Goober** · 05-14-2009, 07:41 PM

Originally posted by Hasselbeck

You mean.. the Raiders finally realized Jamarcus Russell is a piece of shit?

That's actually a good sign for Raider fans.. sadly there are 100 other things to worry about

Too bad, al davis has brainwashed these raider fans, they seem to be as senile as davis is.

**Hasselbeck** · 05-14-2009, 07:42 PM

By the way I would wager the Raiders best QB on the roster is actually their 3rd string RB.

**vamprb** · 05-14-2009, 07:44 PM

Originally posted by Goblinslayer

That's cool I'm still waiting for you to make an excuse for russell's terrible passing stats. The dude simply could not throw down field.

Everybody knows the raiders passing offense in general was bad. Their best WR was the TE.

**Goober** · 05-14-2009, 07:47 PM

Originally posted by vamprb

Everybody knows the raiders passing offense in general was bad. Their best WR was the TE.

I don't give a shit. Plenty of QBs, good and bad, put up great numbers with shitty WRs. Jake Plummer threw for 4,500 yards in a season with shitty WRs, he had an old Rod Smith, and no one else! Tom Brady put up good numbers before he got Moss and Welker. Donovan McNabb has never had great WRs either. Hell journeymen QB's like Senaca Wallace, put up a lot better numbers then russell, and Seattle's WR situation was worse the the raiders!

**vamprb** · 05-14-2009, 07:48 PM

Originally posted by Goblinslayer

Despite having several bad drafts, and giving a few bums big contracts in free agency, the Broncos were always competitive, under Mike Shanahan's 14 years as head coach. They only had a losing record two times, in those 14 years. The raiders on the other hand, have changed coach, every other year, for the past 7 years, and have become the laughing stock of the NFL. I'm proud to say that never happened to the Broncos.

Im proud to say the raiders are not 1 of the 3 teams tied for the most superbowl losses.

**vamprb** · 05-14-2009, 07:53 PM

Originally posted by Goblinslayer

I don't give a shit. Plenty of QBs, good and bad, put up great numbers with shitty WRs. Jake Plummer threw for 4,500 yards in a season with shitty WRs, he had an old Rod Smith, and no one else! Tom Brady put up good numbers before he got Moss and Welker. Donovan McNabb has never had great WRs either. Hell journeymen QB's like Senaca Wallace, put up a lot better numbers then russell, and Seattle's WR situation was worse the the raiders!

Which 1 of those QBs did that as a rookie?

**Goober** · 05-14-2009, 07:53 PM

Originally posted by vamprb

Im proud to say the raiders are not 1 of the 3 teams tied for the most superbowl losses.

I'm proud to say, John Elway was good enough, to make the Broncos the best team in the AFC on a regular basis, despite having no talent to help him out. The Bronco teams in the '80s weren't that good, but John Elway was great, one of the greatest, if not the best QB of all time.

But seriously dude, cut the shit. I don't need to be reminded of any Bronco shortcomings in the past, because they're still better then the raiders. Right now I just want to hear one legitimate reason why we shouldn't consider jamarcus russell a piece of shit and a terrible NFL player. You've been avoiding giving a reason for 3 pages now...

PFT: Garcia On Track To Take Job From JaMarcus?

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