PFT: Garcia On Track To Take Job From JaMarcus?

[steeljake]

look i dont think russel is a bust, but i dont think he is manning, elway or aikman by a long shot. the riaders still havent done shit about their offensive line and about them having a 3 headed momster of a run game... since when does al davis want to pound it out on the ground?

and no i cant read. i'm fucking illiterate, you got a problem with that or do you want to make fun of me cuz i am disabled?

P.S. fuck the raiders

[Tailback U]

look i dont think russel is a bust, but i dont think he is manning, elway or aikman by a long shot. the riaders still havent done shit about their offensive line and about them having a 3 headed momster of a run game... since when does al davis want to pound it out on the ground?

and no i cant read. i'm fucking illiterate, you got a problem with that or do you want to make fun of me cuz i am disabled?

P.S. fuck the raiders

Nobody thinks is he Manning, Elway, or Aikman and nobody is trying to convince anyone else of that, either. So why you are even bringing that comparison up is beyond me.

The Raiders have had one of the better running games in the league the last couple of seasons, which further proves my point that you really don't know shit about anything outside of Pittsburgh.

Russell threw the least passes out of any starting QB in the league last year and will most likely be toward the bottom of the league again this coming season as Tom Cable has already said that the Raiders are a run first team and will continue to be so with the development of JR.

Russell and Cable have both said that the Raiders are going to be a run first offense. And the Raiders will have a much different looking OL this season with the additions of Khalif Barnes, Samson Satele, and Erik Pears. Anything is an upgrade compared to what we had last season, and if these guys can click in the zone run-blocking scheme that the Raiders run, the Raiders should have a much better offense this year.

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Al Davis has long been noted for his preference for the long ball, but this year's version of the Raiders' offense may force the owner to appreciate the mantra "three yards and a cloud of dust."

Under the direction of new coach Tom Cable, the Raiders are relying on a talented stable of backs and a rebuilt offensive line to anchor a smash-mouth attack that will attempt to bludgeon opponents with the run.

Even though the Raiders have a 9-23 record over the past two years, the team has ranked in the top 10 in rushing both seasons and has shown promise as one of the league's top rushing attacks. Led by a three-headed monster at running back, the Raiders are capable of attacking defenses with a diverse ground game that features a balanced mixture of inside and outside runs.

Darren McFadden, the team's top draft pick a year ago, serves as the home-run hitter in the lineup and excels at running on the perimeter. As an upright runner with a sprinter's speed, McFadden gets the majority of his carries on outside zone plays or delayed draws. His outstanding burst allows him to quickly get to the second level and he flashes nifty cutback ability in space.

Justin Fargas, who led the team with 853 rushing yards in 2008, is a gritty between-the-tackles runner. Though he lacks exceptional size, he is a tough, hard-nosed runner with deceptive strength and power. Fargas rarely goes down on first contact and often surprises defenders with his pop.

The wild card of the bunch is Michael Bush. The third-year pro missed all of his rookie season while recovering from a broken leg suffered in college. He burst onto the scene last season with an eye-popping performance to close the year. Bush rushed for 177 yards and two scores against the Bucs in Week 17, displaying the smooth, gliding running style that made him a highly-regarded prospect heading into his senior season at Louisville.

With three running backs capable of 100-yard games, the Raiders are wise to build their offense around the running game. This offseason has seen the team add pieces around the trio, which should allow the Raiders to punish defenses at will with the ground attack.

First, the team started retooling an offensive line that struggled with its consistency in the team's zone-based scheme last season. The team jettisoned Kwame Harris and Jake Grove during the offseason. In their place, the Raiders added Khalif Barnes and Samson Satele.

Barnes, who spent the past four seasons starting at left tackle for the Jaguars, gives the team an athletic edge blocker. He excels in the running game and could potentially team up with Robert Gallery to give the Raiders a dominant side to direct their rushing attack.

Satele, acquired in a trade with the Dolphins, gives the team a more physical presence at the pivot. He mauls defenders at the point and has the strength to create a consistent push up the middle. With the Raiders intent on running the ball between the tackles, Satele's ability to control the line of scrimmage becomes critical to their success.
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In a live chat Thursday on NFL.com, Warren Sapp touched on several Raiders topics, including JaMarcus Russell and Al Davis, and who would win a hot-dog eating contest between himself and Raiders coach Tom Cable. He also had this to say about the Raiders' notorious Black Hole:

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The team also signed Erik Pears during free agency to compete with Cornell Green at the right tackle position. Pears, who started 26 games for the Broncos over the past three seasons, understands the nuances of the zone-based scheme and should be a better fit athletically on the edge. If he eventually unseats Green for the position, the Raiders will sport a more physical and athletic unit in 2009.

However, the final piece to the puzzle comes in the form of hammerhead blocking fullback Lorenzo Neal. The 16-year pro has paved the way for numerous 1,000-yard backs throughout his career, and he is lauded for his ability to lead runners through small creases in the middle of the defense. With the Raiders intent on relentlessly running the ball between the tackles, the decision to add Neal to the lineup could wind up as the team's best offseason move.

Now that the Raiders sport a beefed-up running game with outstanding potential, the team may finally see the best of quarterback JaMarcus Russell in 2009. The third-year pro has superior arm strength and is at his best when allowed to throw the ball down the field. With defenses forced to play eight-man fronts against the Raiders' formidable rushing attack, Russell will have plenty of opportunities to take deep shots against one-on-one coverage on the outside.

This is part of the reason why the team opted for Darrius Heyward-Bey with the seventh overall pick in the draft. He gives them a legitimate deep threat on the outside.

In addition, the threat of the run brings linebackers and safeties closer to the line of scrimmage and creates bigger windows for Russell to hit tight ends and receivers over the middle. Zach Miller led the team in receptions (56) a year ago and he could be an even bigger factor this season with the team incorporating more play-action passing.

The Raiders are by no means ready to compete with the ranks of the elite, but a renewed commitment to the run has them back on the road to respectability.

[steeljake]

Nobody thinks is he Manning, Elway, or Aikman and nobody is trying to convince anyone else of that, either. So why you are even bringing that comparison up is beyond me.

n1gga are you deaf?!?! you're the one who keeps posting stats comparing the 4 of them!!!!

[Tailback U]

n1gga are you deaf?!?! you're the one who keeps posting stats comparing the 4 of them!!!!

You really one dumb motherfucker aren't you?

I'm posting the stats to prove a point that even the greatest QB's of all time struggled in their first 2 seasons. If those guys can't even come into the league and play well, why the fuck should anyone else be to?

[Tailback U]

Show me where Dan Marino struggled you stupid fuck. How fucking dare you make a statement about "greatest QBs of all time" and leave out Dan "Mother Fucking" Marino. Fucker

Dan Marino never even won a fucking Super Bowl. I'd rather be Aikman than Dan Marino any day of the week.

Records can and will be broken. Nobody can ever take away rings from you, though.

[steeljake]

Dan Marino never even won a fucking Super Bowl. I'd rather be Aikman than Dan Marino any day of the week.

Records can and will be broken. Nobody can ever take away rings from you, though.

but he went to one in his first 2 years didnt he asswipe? is marino not in the top 3-5 qb's of all time in almost everyone's book?

now you want to go to rings... um elway has 2 and bradshaw has 4... whose the better qb? please think before you type, it will make you look like less of a douche bag.

I'd rather be Aikman than Dan Marino any day of the week.

thats a fucking lie and you know it. if you gave marino those dallas teams he would have had 6 rings. you cannnot be taken seriuosly ever again.

[Goober]

I knew you didn't know shit about football from the moment you started posting, but this just confirms it.

Stick to Batman comics, kid.

lol dude, my posts have made a lot more sense then the bs the delusional raider fans are posting.

[kbpsu]

If thats not an NFL QB, idk what is.

[Tailback U]

With rule changes your right, records will be broken. It can be argued that without the generous rule changes benefiting the WR that Marino's TD record would've never been broken. Regardless, Marino played at such a high level for years with no help. Aikman had play makers around him. Same can be said for Elway. Marino will always be one of the best quarterbacks in NFL history.

Anyway, no reason why names like Aikeman, Elway, Marino should be brought up in a Jamarcus Russel thread.

You guys are missing the point. The point is that even the majority of the greatest Quarterbacks of all time had trouble in their first couple of seasons in the league. Nobody knew those guys were going to be the greatest QBs of all time at that point and many were considered to be on the path to becoming busts. Nobody is saying JR is going to be a great QB or even a good QB, all we're saying is you can't judge a QB based on 16 total starts.

but he went to one in his first 2 years didnt he asswipe? is marino not in the top 3-5 qb's of all time in almost everyone's book?

Yeah, and he lost, what is your point? Since when are quarterbacks held to a high standard for losing in the Super Bowl?

now you want to go to rings... um elway has 2 and bradshaw has 4... whose the better qb? please think before you type, it will make you look like less of a douche bag.

Why are we talking about Elway and Bradshaw?

thats a fucking lie and you know it. if you gave marino those dallas teams he would have had 6 rings. you cannnot be taken seriuosly ever again.

Everybody knows that Marino was a better QB than Aikman, I don't think many people are going to argue that. But the fact of the matter is that Aikman ended with 3 rings and Marino ended up with none.

I guarantee you Dan Marino would have taken 3 championships over any of his records any day of the week. Not only that, but I guarantee you that Dolphins fans would rather have had 3 Superbowl winning seasons with Marino than any of his records.

Fans and teammates don't care about a player's individual accolades. Everyone knows this. It's all about rings.

It's like this. I would rather have Aikman or Big Ben on my team if it meant my team won multiple championships over Dan Marino if it meant zero championships. Anybody that denies that is lying to themselves or doesn't really care about their football team.

[Tailback U]

I'm a Buccaneers fan, and Garcia won us a few games.....but he also lost us a few games. I personally am happy he's gone. He's too much of a pansy.

Garcia is one of the toughest guys in the league. This is well-known.

You will miss him this season when you see Luke McCown play, trust me.

[ZoneBlitz]

Cant believe some people still dont realize JaMarcus Russell will always suck.

[Kuzzy Powers]

Yeah I dont know why you'd call Garcia a pansy, other than maybe the tone of his voice. Dude is a tough SOB especially for a smaller guy.

[Kuzzy Powers]

Cant believe some people still dont realize JaMarcus Russell will always suck.

Russell wasnt that bad last year considering how terrible his offense was, especially the receivers. He only threw 8 INTs which isnt that bad. 13 TDs, which aint great.. but the ratio isnt terrible for a young QB in a terrible offense. I dont think its fair to say he cant develop into a decent QB when hes only going to be going into his 3rd season. I think he'll be alright.

[Tailback U]

Cant believe some people still dont realize JaMarcus Russell will always suck.

What's your reasoning behind this? His accuracy issues or do you think he isn't capable of running a pro-style offense?

His physical talent is unquestionable and he improved drastically in each of his seasons at LSU.

The only thing anybody can knock about him right now is his work ethic and lack of leadership skills. Everyone attributes that to him being lazy or having a very mellow approach. He really has to improve in that aspect or he'll never be great, that's for sure.

I don't think he is going to be great, but I don't think he's going to be the worst QB of all time as some of you are acting like.

[kbpsu]

You guys are missing the point. The point is that even the majority of the greatest Quarterbacks of all time had trouble in their first couple of seasons in the league. Nobody knew those guys were going to be the greatest QBs of all time at that point and many were considered to be on the path to becoming busts. Nobody is saying JR is going to be a great QB or even a good QB, all we're saying is you can't judge a QB based on 16 total starts.


Yeah, and he lost, what is your point? Since when are quarterbacks held to a high standard for losing in the Super Bowl?

Why are we talking about Elway and Bradshaw?



Everybody knows that Marino was a better QB than Aikman, I don't think many people are going to argue that. But the fact of the matter is that Aikman ended with 3 rings and Marino ended up with none.

I guarantee you Dan Marino would have taken 3 championships over any of his records any day of the week. Not only that, but I guarantee you that Dolphins fans would rather have had 3 Superbowl winning seasons with Marino than any of his records.

Fans and teammates don't care about a player's individual accolades. Everyone knows this. It's all about rings.

It's like this. I would rather have Aikman or Big Ben on my team if it meant my team won multiple championships over Dan Marino if it meant zero championships. Anybody that denies that is lying to themselves or doesn't really care about their football team.

McNabb FTW. :bawling: