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  • SHOGUN
    4 WR 1 RB 0 TE. 24/7/365.
    • Jul 2009
    • 11416

    I don't think anyone is doubting Machida against Shogun, but I'm cheering for Shogun because I have a massive mancrush on a fighter who was the most dominant 205'er ever and wants him to return to his former form.

     
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    • Kuzzy Powers
      Beautiful Like Moses
      • Oct 2008
      • 12541

      BTW Miguel Torres is also considered "Elite", easily.

      There are other "elite" fighters in MMA obviously but these guys are all bar-none the top of their weight class, IMO.

      FW is debatable between Faber and Brown still IMO, but Brown obviously has edge right now.
      Last edited by Kuzzy Powers; 08-09-2009, 06:09 PM.

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      • Liquidrob
        Izzy is a bum
        • Feb 2009
        • 11785

        Originally posted by Tailback U
        Rob, far as I know, you are 0-2 in main event fights as you swore Mir would kill Lesnar and Forrest would kill Silva. I'm sure you had Hendo over Bisping, but who didn't.

        Pretty much went exactly how I thought it would. Rob kept hyping up Forrest's new and improved ground game and how he will come in with a ground game attack. Forrest is a fighter, I knew he couldn't resist standing and trading with Silva, and I knew Silva would pick him apart.

        That said, I'm sure Forrest regrets not trying to take this fight to the ground and trying to stand and trade with Silva. I don't think even he or anyone in his camp realized that Anderson Silva is the most technical boxer in MMA.

        I really want to see Silva Vs. Machida.
        Originally posted by Tailback U
        lol @ rob picking Bisping, really man?

        I think people get too caught up in the x-factors of the fight. The weight difference with Silva or BJ's cardio, Henderson's age, etc. Just pick who you think is the best fighter. That's all.
        lol @ this, Penn/Florian was the main event, so thats 1-1, also Hendo/Bisping was the 3rd fight, GSP/Alves was the co-main event, stop making shit up! lol

        Thats the fun part trying to figure out the gameplans and matching skill set, styles make fights, plus Silva was going up a weight class, so just saying 'he is a better fighter' and going with it is not that simple and you would just pick the favorites every time anyway

        Forrest didnt even try and go for a clinch, TD, anything, if someone told me he was just going to kickbox than I pick Silva all day, I even said Forrest has a overrated chin and Silva is to precise for him, oh well, Forrest made a bad choice
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        • Liquidrob
          Izzy is a bum
          • Feb 2009
          • 11785

          Silva is better now because of Machida and Machida is better now because of Silva, these 2 are just helping each other out all the time, to say Machida has nothing for Silva is a joke, plain and simple, they are both making elite fighters look silly right now
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          • Liquidrob
            Izzy is a bum
            • Feb 2009
            • 11785

            also, with the Bisping over Hendo pick, Dan has KO power but his KOs usually come off aggresive fighters standing there and trading with him

            Bisping is a runner and he could have out pointed Dan in a 3 round fight if he could avoid the 1 big KO punch, he just didnt
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            • Kuzzy Powers
              Beautiful Like Moses
              • Oct 2008
              • 12541

              Originally posted by Liquidrob
              also, with the Bisping over Hendo pick, Dan has KO power but his KOs usually come off aggresive fighters standing there and trading with him

              Bisping is a runner and he could have out pointed Dan in a 3 round fight if he could avoid the 1 big KO punch, he just didnt
              I thought so too but evidently we overrated Bisping. He does not have what it takes to beat top flight fighters.

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              • SHOGUN
                4 WR 1 RB 0 TE. 24/7/365.
                • Jul 2009
                • 11416

                Originally posted by Liquidrob
                also, with the Bisping over Hendo pick, Dan has KO power but his KOs usually come off aggresive fighters standing there and trading with him

                Bisping is a runner and he could have out pointed Dan in a 3 round fight if he could avoid the 1 big KO punch, he just didnt
                I thought the same, but Bisping got cocky and paid dearly for it.

                 
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                • Liquidrob
                  Izzy is a bum
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 11785

                  Originally posted by Bob Kuzzy
                  I thought so too but evidently we overrated Bisping. He does not have what it takes to beat top flight fighters.
                  but this is MMA, it only takes that 1 punch, so predictions are always a crap shoot

                  Bisping has the skill set to out point a guy like Dan, it just didnt happen, doesnt mean I think Bisping is better, just thought he could win 2 out of 3 rounds by points
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                  • Anthony
                    In Brendan we trust.
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 5201

                    Not a Bisping fan.

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                    • Liquidrob
                      Izzy is a bum
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 11785

                      Originally posted by Anthony
                      Not a Bisping fan.
                      and? I'm not really either, its just how you think fights will go
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                      • Liquidrob
                        Izzy is a bum
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 11785

                        Can BJ finally get some credit from everyone that he is the best 155 out there?



                        Last edited by Liquidrob; 08-09-2009, 06:32 PM.
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                        • Anthony
                          In Brendan we trust.
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 5201

                          Originally posted by Liquidrob
                          and? I'm not really either, its just how you think fights will go
                          I hope all his fights go just how the Hendo v Bisping fight ended.

                          I like humble fighters, it's all. With Penn being the exception.
                          Last edited by Anthony; 08-09-2009, 06:35 PM.

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                          • Liquidrob
                            Izzy is a bum
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 11785

                            and please lets not start the diego hype, diego's and his 1909 boxing style will get lite up by Baby J

                            just off the top of my head, BJ has won by Rear Naked Choke against Florian, Joe Daddy, Gomi, Hughes and Pulver now
                            Last edited by Liquidrob; 08-09-2009, 06:35 PM.
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                            • Anthony
                              In Brendan we trust.
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 5201

                              Originally posted by Liquidrob
                              and please lets not start the diego hype, diego's and his 1909 boxing style will get lite up by Baby J

                              just off the top of my head, BJ has won by Rear Naked Choke against Florian, Joe Daddy, Gomi, Hughes and Pulver now
                              QFT, Thank you sir.

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                              • Liquidrob
                                Izzy is a bum
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 11785

                                giving Silva/Forrest FOTN was a joke, I think Dana just wanted to throw more money at And1
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