Gina out drew Kimbo on Showtime

[Liquidrob]

I did.. and it didnt apply to me because I wasnt even saying the numbers were good or bad.

And clearly im stalking you.. I thought I was already accused of this?

so why did you reply to my post about his post and try and make it about me?

it had nothing to do with me and was about the numbers and what they meant and called whoever thought they were bad igrorant

lol @ everyone one of your posts in this thread besides maybe 1 being about me or directed towards me and I didnt even mention you once until today

I love the new 'Anit-Rob' crowd

[Kuzzy Powers]

so why did you reply to my post about his post and try and make it about me?

it had nothing to do with me and was about the numbers and what they meant and called whoever thought they were bad igrorant

lol @ everyone one of your posts in this thread besides maybe 1 being about me or directed towards me and I didnt even mention you once until today

I love the new 'Anit-Rob' crowd

Next time you accuse someone of stalking you on an internet msg board, expect to get trolled for being such a fucking faggot for doing so.

Theres a reason everyone and their mother accuses you of the same shit. People are going "Anti-Rob" (mad gay thing to say) because you are bringing it on yourself.

[Liquidrob]

Next time you accuse someone of stalking you on an internet msg board, expect to get trolled for being such a fucking faggot for doing so.

Theres a reason everyone and their mother accuses you of the same shit. People are going "Anti-Rob" (mad gay thing to say) because you are bringing it on yourself.

My new number 1 fan, I'll put you on my mailing list

[Kuzzy Powers]

My new number 1 fan, I'll put you on my mailing list

You gotta be somebody to have fans Rob.. you aint even a has been.. you a never was.

Did Dana reject you like he did Frank? Maybe thats why your hatred runs so deep..

[Liquidrob]

This thread is full of ignorance, and i don't mean that to be offensive. Anyone who thinks that's a shitty rating dosent understand the television business, or how ratings work.

That's not a good number for Showtime, that's a GREAT number. Showtime, Strikeforce, and Gina Carano all come away from this as HUGE winners.

Saying UFC beat them 4:1 is silly, because Spike is a powerful basic cable network that reaches 90
million+ homes, while Showtime is a premium service with a fraction of that number. Strikeforce actually beat UFC in the overall household ratings, 1.8 to 1.5.

UFC was also a big winner, outdrawing every other sport that day, in all the demos that matter.

The night was a big win for MMA as a whole, in reality.

funny stuff, W2B jumps in, calls out some ignorance and nobody responds

classic

[Liquidrob]

From Dave Meltzer at Yahoo

The Gina Carano-Cris “Cyborg” Santos match in San Jose on Saturday night was obviously going to be the biggest women’s mixed martial arts match ever in the U.S. And by every indication, those who were critical of putting women in the main event have to eat crow.

After a weekend when Carano and Cyborg were the No. 1 most searched subjects on Yahoo!, No. 2 on Google, and the most discussed topic on Twitter on Saturday night, the key number, the television ratings, was record breaking.

The Showtime broadcast of Santos’ first-round victory over Carano did a 2.2 rating with an average of 576,000 viewers, between 10:30 p.m. and 12:15 a.m. ET. The abbreviated show included three first-round stoppages in four televised matches. Both numbers broke the Showtime records set on Feb. 16, 2008, a 1.9 rating and 522,000 viewers for an Elite XC card headlined by Tank Abbott vs. Kimbo Slice. It also more than doubled the 275,000 viewers drawn on Strikeforce’s last major show on June 6.

Saturday’s bout was sloppy at times. It did not have the all-around skill level of top-level men’s matches, but when it came to excitement and crowd appeal, it was a huge success.

The crowd of 13,976, one of the largest non-UFC crowds in MMA history, reacted with every bit of passion as they did for Frank Shamrock’s fights with Cung Le and Phil Baroni in the same arena, which finished high in most MMA match of the year awards the past two years.

The event was promoted as a historical event. It was the first woman’s main event on a major MMA show, the first woman’s main event for any fighting event on Showtime, and the crowning of the first major promotion women’s champion.

The crowd was slightly different from the usual group that attends Strikeforce events in San Jose. There were more couples and more women in general than for most MMA events.

The Carano vs. Santos main event itself did a 2.9 rating and 856,000 viewers, adding 17 percent over the audience from the preceding Gegard Mousasi vs. Renato Sobral light heavyweight title match. Those numbers were far ahead of any MMA match ever on the network.

Also impressive is that the card did these numbers on a short show, as MMA events on television generally will draw better when they are longer, because the pattern is people will find out about the show and stick with it, and a longer show has a higher ratings advantage.

From a ratings standpoint, which throws out the obvious advantage a show on Spike or CBS would have because they are seen in more homes than Showtime, the match was not close to a ratings record-setting event for the sport. But it was the highest rating for an MMA match or event in the U.S. this year, even though as far as total audience, any first-run UFC television show on Spike will have more actual viewers.

The Ultimate Fighting Championship countered Strikeforce by putting the biggest show in its history, a replay of UFC 100 from July 11, on Spike TV. Being available in far more homes than Showtime, the UFC event did a 1.5 rating and 2 million viewers for the Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir fight. The numbers were significantly lower than UFC 91 drew for its replay with Lesnar vs. Randy Couture when it went up against an Affliction show in January. The decision to air the show wasn’t made until a few days prior, and there was significantly less advertising for this show as compared to Lesnar vs. Couture. The taped UFC event drew more males in the 18-34 age demographic than any live sporting event on Saturday.

The question is whether this unique match was a one-time phenomenon for women in the sport, or, like UFC when it hit big four years ago, something that will springboard the women’s side to greater popularity.

There is little question it was the personalities, or maybe more accurately, one of the personalities, Carano’s, which drove the event.

UFC has shown with every major star, like Randy Couture, Georges St. Pierre, Forrest Griffin, Brock Lesnar and Chuck Liddell, that fighters who become stars, don’t seem to lose marketing appeal with a loss. In fact, even with a series of losses like Liddell has suffered in recent fights, he pulled much higher numbers on pay-per-view for his most recent fight in April than he did his prior fight in September.

The idea that because the sport was built on Carano, that with one loss, it’s over, is ridiculous, even though those comments have been echoed in the past few days. You can make an argument that just being part of such a major event made her a bigger star, even in losing.

Santos, on the other hand, is a much bigger star. She has a crowd-pleasing all-out style reminiscent of a prime Wanderlei Silva, with whom she is often compared. Both came from the same gym, the Chute Boxe Academy in Curatiba, Brazil.

Will Santos draw similar numbers without Carano as her opponent? That’s unlikely. She probably won’t be able to singularly main event and carry a show on her back, but only a handful of people in the sport can, and it’s an unfair standard to expect from her. But a more fair comparison is will she, against Marloes Coenen, her next likely opponent, be able to garner the level of interest a man like Jake Shields, Robbie Lawler or Nick Diaz in a similar spot on the card can do? The jury is out, but based on her exposure, the odds are strongly in her favor.

[CrimsonGhost56]

i was anti-rob months before any of you. now your all just jumping on the bandwagon

[Kuzzy Powers]

.... After reading this whole thread, I'm pretty sure Rob was just trying to point out that Gina brings in more viewers percentage wise for SF, than Kimbo does. He then posted the UFC and SF numbers to show how SF potential viewers stacked up against UFC.


I never even got the impression that it was a SF > UFC or anything of the sorts.

Lol.. if you aint a regular in this section you dont know whats good with Rob and his bias. Every regular in this section knows the dealie.. one or two play it off cause they like Rob.. but all know the deal.

[CrimsonGhost56]

Fair enough. My initial thought process after reading the first two posts in the thread was that he was trying to show how Gina brought in more viewers than Kimbo did (Naturally)

I also don't know his posting history.

yes. here is an actual picture of rob. no joke

[Steel Mamba]

lol @ that pic. Nah man Rob speaks the truth about the UFC, it isn't bias when it's facts.

[Liquidrob]

.... After reading this whole thread, I'm pretty sure Rob was just trying to point out that Gina brings in more viewers percentage wise for SF, than Kimbo does. He then posted the UFC and SF numbers to show how SF potential viewers stacked up against UFC.


I never even got the impression that it was a SF > UFC or anything of the sorts.

thanks, but I really dont want this thread to me about me anyway, I just posted an article and some quotes and wanted to talk about Gina and Kimbo's numbers and thought the ratings were very good

I never posted 1 thing negative about the UFC in this thread but like way to many threads lately is has been derailed

[Kuzzy Powers]

thanks, but I really dont want this thread to me about me anyway, I just posted an article and some quotes and wanted to talk about Gina and Kimbo's numbers and thought the ratings were very good

I never posted 1 thing negative about the UFC in this thread but like way to many threads lately is has been derailed

Lol @ trying to say that second post wasnt supposed to be a "negative" about the UFC. Why else post those numbers other than to take put a negative spin on UFC and a positive spin on Strikeforce? Especially coming from Rob "Fuck you Dana White" *enter last name here*.

I dont understand why a grown man is in such epic denial.. as Russell Peter's would say "IT IS MIND BLASTING!"

[Liquidrob]

Fair enough. My initial thought process after reading the first two posts in the thread was that he was trying to show how Gina brought in more viewers than Kimbo did (Naturally)

I also don't know his posting history.

and thats what this thread was about, you were correct

[Liquidrob]

Lol @ trying to say that second post wasnt supposed to be a "negative" about the UFC. Why else post those numbers other than to take put a negative spin on UFC and a positive spin on Strikeforce? Especially coming from Rob "Fuck you Dana White" *enter last name here*.

I dont understand why a grown man is in such epic denial.. as Russell Peter's would say "IT IS MIND BLASTING!"

because those are the numbers, I didnt make them up

[Kuzzy Powers]

because those are the numbers, I didnt make them up

You dont have to make them up and noone is accusing you of doing that (I know you like to accuse people of ridiculous shit).. they were there in the article for everyone to read. You posted them bcus you wanted to do exactly what I said.. point out the positive for Strikeforce and the negative for UFC.

This is almost like a game with you now.. when will Rob grow up and finally admits something that isnt even that bad of a thing. As a gambling man I wouldnt say anytime soon.