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  • MrBill
    Billy Brewer Sucks Penis
    • Feb 2009
    • 0

    NFL admits to missed calls in NFC Championship Game

    No shit.....Mike Pereira admitted tonight on the NFL Network that Pete Morelli's crew missed some calls in the NFC Championship Game on Sunday. Most specifically, the Bobby McCray submarine shot at Favre's legs in the 3rd quarter that would have wiped out the Favre pick and set up Vikings up with a first down inside the redzone. Not that they wouldn't have fumbled it away like they did several other drives but the Vikings did get jobbed on that call and he hid behind the "inconclusive evidence to overturn the call on the field" even though replays showed it likely the wrong call was made.

    Pereira talks about controversial calls in Saints-Vikings overtime

    Posted by Mike Florio on January 27, 2010 10:41 PM ET

    During the on-air portion of the "Official Review" segment of NFL Network's Total Access, V.P. of officiating Mike Pereira admitted that a flag should have wiped out the third-quarter interception thrown by Vikings quarterback Brett Favre, due to a low hit applied by Saints defensive end Bobby McCray. (MDS has more on the non-call right here.)

    It's possible that referee Pete Morelli swallowed the whistle because he had called a roughing the passer penalty only a few plays earlier, extending the drive. But Pereira explained that the driving of Favre into the ground was "poster-child" evidence of a personal foul, despite the fact that FOX's Troy Aikman strongly disagreed with the call. So there should have been no need for a make-up call -- especially since the hit to Favre's lower legs was obvious.

    During the online-only portion of the "Official Review" feature, Pereira talked about several other disputed plays from the game. Specifically, he addressed two key decisions from the sole drive of overtime.

    First, he discussed a catch by Saints receiver Robert Meachem that moved the game-winning field goal attempt to 40 yards. The ball seemed to hit the ground -- and move -- as Meachem tried to secure possession. Pereira explained that insufficient visual evidence existed to overturn the call on the field, regardless of whether the call on the field had been that the pass was complete or incomplete.

    In this regard, we agreed with the decision. Though it appears that the call was wrong, the "100 drunks in a bar" standard requires clear evidence to overturn the real-time ruling. And clear evidence was not available.

    Pereira also talked about the key fourth-down plunge by running back Pierre Thomas, during which the helmet of linebacker Chad Greenway seemed to dislodge the ball after Thomas achieved forward progress. Pereira again explained that insufficient visual evidence existed to permit an accurate re-spotting of the ball, even if it were determined that he lost possession and then recovered possession while in the air. (As to the possible loss of possession, Pereira accurately observed that Thomas might have maintained sufficient possession with his right hand.) The problem is that Thomas was in the air, which makes it virtually impossible to establish the kind of reference point needed to spot the ball anywhere other than where it had been spotted on the field.

    So, again, the call might have been bad, but the application of the replay rules was accurate.

    Finally, Pereira said nothing at all about a pass interference call on Vikings linebacker Ben Leber on a ball that seemed to be uncatchable -- unless Saints tight end David Thomas were 10-feet tall.

    Of course, nothing said by Pereira or anyone else after the fact really matters. Vikings fans will continue to believe that their team got a raw deal, and Saints fans will continue to point to the final score and/or the Vikings' many turnovers and/or calls that went against the home team.

    Still, we hope that the NFL will aspire to reach a level of officiating that allows no team to legitimately believe that they lost a game due to anything other than the superiority of the opponent. We also hope that, someday, the NFL will reach that goal, on a consistent basis.
  • mgoblue2290
    Posts too much
    • Feb 2009
    • 7174

    #2
    Even though there were some missed calls, you can rarely ever say that losing the game was the ref's fault. In some rare cases it is the ref's fault, but this was not one of them.

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    • Chrispy
      Needs a hobby
      • Dec 2008
      • 11403

      #3
      Tory Aikman is blind and a horrible announcer. The refs absolutely gave the game to the saints on that final drive.

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      • Realist
        Junior Member
        • Mar 2009
        • 6057

        #4
        Dont matter, didn't cost them the game

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        • Point Blank
          Needs a hobby
          • Oct 2008
          • 14184

          #5
          Originally posted by cpollack09
          Tory Aikman is blind and a horrible announcer. The refs absolutely gave the game to the saints on that final drive.
          Can't blame that game on the refs though. Vikings lost that game themselves.

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          • Warner2BruceTD
            2011 Poster Of The Year
            • Mar 2009
            • 26142

            #6
            I dont know what game you guys were watching, but i've never seen an NFL game more influenced by bad officiating, and it most certainly cost Minnesota the game. This despite the 6 fumbles and Favre being Favre at the end of regulation. Minnesota still thoroughly outplayed the Saints, all while being put behind the 8 ball by horrible, incompetent officiating.

            Years from now, when looking back at the game, nobody will remember anything the Saints did. The story is the fumbles, the Favre bonehead pick, and the bad officiating.

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            • Goober
              Needs a hobby
              • Feb 2009
              • 12271

              #7
              You guys don't understand. That city deserves this.

              (fuck the saints)

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              • Bomberooski
                #GoHawks
                • Feb 2009
                • 10474

                #8
                Originally posted by cpollack09
                Tory Aikman is blind and a horrible announcer. The refs absolutely gave the game to the saints on that final drive.
                One, it's Troy...

                But more importantly I totally agree. He sucks. And he didn't care about this game! It wasn't a Cowboys game! I was just surprised that he even showed up to do a non-Cowboys game.
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                • mgoblue2290
                  Posts too much
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 7174

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Goblinslayer
                  You guys don't understand. That city deserves this.

                  (fuck the saints)
                  You know what I realized today, Drew Brees wasn't even a member of the damn team when Katrina hit.

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                  • ryne candy
                    Aggie C/O '01
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 4355

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Goblinslayer
                    You guys don't understand. That city deserves this.

                    (fuck the saints)
                    deserves what...the super bowl? Y'all had 4 shots....one more wouldn't change it....they are the original Buffalo Bills. :wavey:

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                    • Warner2BruceTD
                      2011 Poster Of The Year
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 26142

                      #11
                      Originally posted by tarheelsfan5
                      The officiating was pretty bad,but how can you expect to win with the amount of times,the Vikings put the ball on the ground? Favre had a great season,but like the 08 Packers/Giants game,Favre screwed up in a key situation which his team could not recover from
                      Why do people keep saying this?

                      If Favre tucks the ball and runs for 10 yards instead of throwing the pick, Minnesota likely wins the game, despite the 6 fumbles.

                      If the officials didnt keep the Saints drive alive 3 times in OT, the Vikes get the ball back against a softer than bread Saints D that Favre sliced up at will the entire game.

                      The Saints were awful in the second half. They had about 60 yard of offense, and couldnt put a team away that was begging to get blown out by fumbling on nearly every possession.

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                      • Liquidrob
                        Izzy is a bum
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 11785

                        #12
                        lets all be honest, if the Vikings get the ball back Favre would have thrown another pick
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                        • ryne candy
                          Aggie C/O '01
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 4355

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                          Why do people keep saying this?

                          If Favre tucks the ball and runs for 10 yards instead of throwing the pick, Minnesota likely wins the game, despite the 6 fumbles.

                          If the officials didnt keep the Saints drive alive 3 times in OT, the Vikes get the ball back against a softer than bread Saints D that Favre sliced up at will the entire game.

                          The Saints were awful in the second half. They had about 60 yard of offense, and couldnt put a team away that was begging to get blown out by fumbling on nearly every possession.
                          Because they actually turnovered the ball those times....you are basing it on alot of "ifs" that didn't happen.

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                          • MrBill
                            Billy Brewer Sucks Penis
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 0

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Liquidrob
                            lets all be honest, if the Vikings get the ball back Peterson would have had another fumble
                            Fixed that for you.

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                            • Warner2BruceTD
                              2011 Poster Of The Year
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 26142

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Liquidrob
                              lets all be honest, if the Vikings get the ball back Favre would have thrown another pick
                              Favre was the best player on the field that day, by a pretty wide margain.

                              Nobody knows what would have happened if they got the ball back, but the point is they should have gotten it back. And based on the fact the Vikes went up and down the field at will all day, I wasnt expecting the Saints to all of a sudden put up a defense stop.

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