The Historical Significance of Brock at #1 (by whistleblower from the UG)

[Liquidrob]

Bob Sapp was pretty awesome until he started getting hit in the face, Brock like Carwin are huge question marks, the UFC HW was built on smoke and mirrors, hype jobs like Carwin and Brock, Cain and JDS are awesome though

[EmpireWF]

And Fedor could be wilting as fast as Big Nog.

Fact is we have no clue yet. Won't be able to tell until Fedor, Brock have another couple of fights under their belt. Sadly, guess we won't see that until the end of next year...if we're lucky.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Rob, no one can deny the UFC's heavy's are overrated. The top of their division is just loaded with young guys...young guys that will be and are in some respects, great fighters, but they aren't elite yet and funny enough they are just beating each other up in round robin format.

However, they are all at the top of a pretty slim heavyweight division whether Zuffa or "the field"...

I dont think anyone has ever said otherwise...didnt we have a thread on the subject a few months ago?

[Liquidrob]

What are you lol'ing about? He was ranked anywhere from 8th to 10th to not ranked at all. That's the definition of 'fringe'.

I agree they are two different things, but 'who is the best' is one of the factors of 'who is #1'.

You cant jump that far, not with his resume. Missouri won't be #1 this week, Oregon will.

I know your argument sucks when you use a broken system like the BCS which you constantly bash to try and make a point

[EmpireWF]

Rob, you're system would have had Serra as the best 170er in the world after the GSP knockout. Clearly that was not the case.

[Liquidrob]

THE CARTEL!

[Warner2BruceTD]

Bob Sapp was pretty awesome until he started getting hit in the face, Brock like Carwin are huge question marks, the UFC HW was built on smoke and mirrors, hype jobs like Carwin and Brock, Cain and JDS are awesome though

You kill me.

As soon as Cain & JDS lose, you will rip them, too.

You're the same guy who was all over the Carwin hype train going into the Brock fight. In fact, you've picked EVERY SINGLE BROCK OPPONENT to date, except for the Korean can & Herring (you might have picked Herring, too, I dont remember, I assume you didnt though).

Plus you overhype everything SF.

[Liquidrob]

Rob, you're system would have had Serra as the best 170er in the world after the GSP knockout. Clearly that was not the case.

Um, no it wouldn't, Serra wasn't even a top 25 WW, Werdum was 8, with quality HW wins on his resume

[Liquidrob]

I have said for a while Cain would be champ and beat both Brock and Carwin, but he is still young and has room to grow, guy is a stud

Carwin vs Brock was a pick em, said it many times before the fight

[Liquidrob]

Time for bed

THE CAIN TRAIN, CHOO CHOO!

[EmpireWF]

Um, no it wouldn't, Serra wasn't even a top 25 WW, Werdum was 8, with quality HW wins on his resume

Those quality wins were Overeem and Big Foot, Gonzaga too.

Not even mentioning the loss to JDS, at the time, an unknown.

IMO, it takes a lot more than a flash submission to jump from the bottom of the top ten to #1 in undisputed fashion.

[Liquidrob]

lol @ people buying the hype of the 'New Breed of HW'

Todd Duffee clubbed like a baby seal

Carwin cant go 4 minutes

Brock turns when getting hit and falls all over the cage

New breed my ass, its hype people, see through it!

[EmpireWF]

So put Brock in there with Werdum, Big Foot, Rogers and he'll clown them.

Overeem would have to be favored over Brock.

Fedor? Slight edge to the best of all time.

[Liquidrob]

So put Brock in there with Werdum, Big Foot, Rogers and he'll clown them.

Overeem would have to be favored over Brock.

Fedor? Slight edge to the best of all time.

I said it before, Big Foot would beat Brock, Werdum would sub him, he would beat Rogers pretty easily

[SHOGUN]

Why do people think Big Foot is some slouch? Is it because he looks weird? :dontknow:

I think he'd beat Brock.