The Official Wrestlemania XXVII Thread

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I understand not having a MITB match, as you have a PPV dedicated to that shit now, but damn, have these midcarders in something decent.

Sheamus v. Bryan was a perfectly good opportunity for both guys. Yet, they take it off the show and make it a lumberjack match that turns into a battle royal. That is just disrespectful to both guys.

Morrison v. Ziggler would be a perfectly good opportunity for those two to "steal the show" as both are good little workers. OK, you put them with Trish, Snooki, LayCool...alright, but let the match go longer than 3 minutes and let those two guys get 75% of the work in. Bring in McCool and Trish to work a bit (two fine chick wrestlers if you are into that sort of thing) and have Snickers do her little spot. Give it more than what you gave it and you end up with something that might be decent.

Barrett v. Kingston, as I said, had a decent match on free TV with a cool finish to put the title on Barrett. Should have just put that match on at WM, would have been fine.

Rhodes got the best he could out of Mysterio. Good enough, but you just aren't going to get anything decent from Mysterio these days.

Edge v. ADR was another WWE wasted opportunity. If you want to curtain jerk it, fine, but give the crowd a reason to pop or boo. Change the title immediately and it sets your night up where "anything can happen!!!111" plus, you don't lose momentum later in the show and you got your title change out of the way without interfering in your two big matches.

Punk couldn't save anything Orton did, if Orton was going over. Same shit, different day for Orton.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Re: Del Rio, because not giving him the strap here irks me.

You don't strap a jet pack to a guys back only for it to run out of gas within arms reach of the moon. Whats the point?

[EmpireWF]

With ADR, I think one of these situations happened...

1) The plan all along was for Del Rio to lose at Mania with the idea that the cocky heel fell short. The storyline goes on in the coming months where eventually, he wins the belt and they can turn either Edge or Christian. I doubt this is what happened.

2) The plan all along was for Del Rio to win the title at Mania in one of the main events. When they got to this week, they realized they didn't want to have all the big matches back to back. They like having 'buffers' between them (hence the 6-man...gives the people a chance to come down). So they realized they needed to bump the U.S. title match for time. They move the World title match to the opening spot and get the people happy with Edge retaining. Del Rio will get his win later on.

That's what I believe happened.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Or, like usual, they fell out of love with someone and the de-push will commence now.

[Warner2BruceTD]

They don't care about mid carders, and never will. They apparently needed time for 19 false finish spots in the HHH match that nobody bought anyway, and gospel choirs for Cena.

God forbid you give guys a shot to get over on the biggest stage and maybe create a star. No time for that. But plenty of time for Pee Wee Herman.

[FedEx227]

The Pee Wee Herman segment was essential. And the Mae Young one too. Her sexual innuendos never get old.

[EmpireWF]

They don't care about mid carders, and never will. They apparently needed time for 19 false finish spots in the HHH match that nobody bought anyway, and gospel choirs for Cena.

People bought the tombstone false finish.

[Kuzzy Powers]

People bought the tombstone false finish.

Noone bought any false finish. If you thought, even for a second, that HHH was going to beat Taker at WM with his own finisher, then you are indeed a mark.

HHH did epically botch the tombstone tho.. Taker's head bounced off the mat. Im sure he was in immense pain for the rest of the night.

[EmpireWF]

Noone bought any false finish. If you thought, even for a second, that HHH was going to beat Taker at WM with his own finisher, then you are indeed a mark.

HHH did epically botch the tombstone tho.. Taker's head bounced off the mat. Im sure he was in immense pain for the rest of the night.

Taker was already in immense pain.

That spot was a damn good false finish, won't get into the whole match but the whole story of the second half was tremendous.

[Warner2BruceTD]

People bought the tombstone false finish.

Stop.

Even if they did, I'm curious how much combined time they spent laying on the mat after all of the goofy 2.9's. Probably could have cut them in half and squeezed in another match.

Anyway, its all pointless, this is what they do. And then they can't create stars and wonder why.

People who got put over the strongest last night:
Rock
Snooki
HHH
Undertaker
Edge

I mean, you don't see an issue here? Larry is 1000% correct.

[Kuzzy Powers]

Its not that I thought it was a bad spot, I just dont think anyone thought for a second that the match was ending there. That was obviously a spot that was going to happen during the match. Im sure Taker regrets it tho, cause HHH's ass completely botched that shit. Theres a reason the Tombstone is all but banned now-a-days.

[FedEx227]

Stop.

Even if they did, I'm curious how much combined time they spent laying on the mat after all of the goofy 2.9's. Probably could have cut them in half and squeezed in another match.

Anyway, its all pointless, this is what they do. And then they can't create stars and wonder why.

People who got put over the strongest last night:
Rock
Snooki
HHH
Undertaker
Edge

I mean, you don't see an issue here? Larry is 1000% correct.

I loved how Meltzer brought up the point that Snooki had like the 2nd or 3rd most athletic move on the show.

[Kuzzy Powers]

I loved how Meltzer brought up the point that Snooki had like the 2nd or 3rd most athletic move on the show.

I might argue it was THE most athletic, and possibly also the high point of th evening.

It was really amazing when you break it down, at how POORLY the whole show was put together. Right from the jump when they put Del-Rio vs Edge first.. I take it they wanted to start the show off with something big, but it failed, badly. The match was bad and they just ended up no-selling the World Title. Just flat out terrible.

[EmpireWF]

Yeah, that's actually pretty accurate about the show as a whole being pretty ground based (besides the Morrison move, the Kingston move, Snooki and Undertaker's painful looking suicide dive).

They've definitely done a shit job of keeping their midcarders relevent and it's a shame. There's talent there but they don't get the time of day to rise up.

The only guys who have in recent years...Punk, Miz and Sheamus (although he's back down the card).

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Stop.

Even if they did, I'm curious how much combined time they spent laying on the mat after all of the goofy 2.9's. Probably could have cut them in half and squeezed in another match.

Anyway, its all pointless, this is what they do. And then they can't create stars and wonder why.

People who got put over the strongest last night:
Rock
Snooki
HHH
Undertaker
Edge

I mean, you don't see an issue here? Larry is 1000% correct.

Leading up, when I said it was going to be underrated or WOAT, I meant it, and it is why I didn't buy it, even though I actually was pretty hyped for the card.

It was the perfect opportunity for them to put over the next generation that are currently sitting around, squandering in the mid-card, and not a single fuckin one of them went over...not even Miz got over and he is/was the champ that ended the show.

I just knew this shit wasn't going to be good when I read they knocked Sheamus/Bryan to the curtain jerker match and it was filled with shenanigans. At that point, I realized it was going to be awful.

Then I saw Del Rio v. Edge and when I got that ending, I should have just stopped watching. You are building up Del Rio to be your champ, you even put him on first, so maybe you put over Del Rio while not taking away from the other two main event level matches, and nope...typical Edge match with junk Edge finish.

Maybe that is what happens when you put Del Rio with a bum like G-Rilla.

Edge will never be that over...ever. He's just not very good nor likable or hateable. He's alright...but he's been at the top of the card wayyyy too long and for him to be put over one of their next latin superstars is silly silly booking.

I don't mind HHH and Undertaker being put over...that is what that match was there for. Same with Snooki...they always put over their celebs, but damn, give Morrison and Ziggler the rub by carrying the match a little bit.

I get it, The Rock was your draw, but you use that draw to get over people that will be there for a while. Not necessarily Cena, but you devalued your premier talent, Miz, in the worst way. Epic intro, awful match, even worse post-match shenanigans.