The General Wrestling Thread

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Also, I've said it a million times, but I'll say it again...

I just don't get Jeff Hardy.

Much like W2B doesn't get Cannonball Sami, I just don't get Jeff Hardy. I have no idea how or why he is considered a star. I just don't relate him to being that level of a talent. I don't know why, I just don't. I don't get his fanbase. Its like I'm on crazy pills when people pop for Jeff Hardy. I know in TNA there is a correlation to some higher buyrates. I dunno...but I just don't get Jeff Hardy. Any match Hardy is in that gets rave reviews or is good, I don't consider him the reason for it.

I dunno, maybe its just me...but he's one of the few guys of the past decade that I just don't get. By all means, someone can explain it to me if ya'll like.

[Warner2BruceTD]

fuck if I know

I knew in 2003 because I would go to shows or watch TV and see teenage girls going crazy.

I knew in 2008 because WWE still has young fans and young people are very much into Hardy.

I don't understand his appeal in TNA, which skews a little older in terms of fan base. You hardly ever see kids or teenage girls at the Impact Zone, and besides, those teenage girls who used to like him are adults now who I doubt are keeping up with wrestling at all, let alone TNA, which even many people who follow wrestling don't realize exist.

Yet, PPV's with Hardy on top average 4,000 more buys. WHO ARE THESE 4,000 PEOPLE? Who jumps out of their seat and says, 'well shit, JEFF HARDY is the main event? grab the phone hun, i'm ordering HARDCORE JUSTICE.'

I don't get it either.

[SuperKevin]

TNA appeals to white trash. Jeff Hardy is white trash. There's your correlation

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

TNA appeals to white trash. Jeff Hardy is white trash. There's your correlation

Then James Storm would be champion...

[SuperKevin]

Then James Storm would be champion...

He did have the most points in the BFG series.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

fuck if I know

I knew in 2003 because I would go to shows or watch TV and see teenage girls going crazy.

I knew in 2008 because WWE still has young fans and young people are very much into Hardy.

I don't understand his appeal in TNA, which skews a little older in terms of fan base. You hardly ever see kids or teenage girls at the Impact Zone, and besides, those teenage girls who used to like him are adults now who I doubt are keeping up with wrestling at all, let alone TNA, which even many people who follow wrestling don't realize exist.

Yet, PPV's with Hardy on top average 4,000 more buys. WHO ARE THESE 4,000 PEOPLE? Who jumps out of their seat and says, 'well shit, JEFF HARDY is the main event? grab the phone hun, i'm ordering HARDCORE JUSTICE.'

I don't get it either.

4K really, could be pure happenstance, really, but because TNA does such small numbers, they correlate that to some sort of Hardy drawing power.

Its silly.

I just don't get him, at all.

[Warner2BruceTD]

From a 1995 edition of the Wrestling Observer

Cactus Jack at 1448 4th St., West Babylon, NY 11704 is moving and has 50 videotapes and 100 mint conditions Japanese magazines for sale.

[FedEx227]

The reader pages are my favorite part of old Observers.

[SuperKevin]

Don't get me wrong Derrville, I watch TNA too and I think their in ring product can at times be better than WWE but you groan me all you want Derrville but if you ever go to a taping of Impact you'll agree with me 100%.

[Warner2BruceTD]

CM Punk Best in the World is now on Netflix.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Dave Meltzer @davemeltzerWON
I will not talk about Tokyo Dome show until tonight, but YOU MUST SEE THIS EVENT

[JayDizzle]

5 minutes in and I'm already liking Smackdown better than anything I've seen/heard this week.

And it's ANOTHER tag match announcement.

With Claudio Castagnoli, my boy Big Show, Orton and the eater of Potatoes, Sheamus of all people.

I wish The Rock would enter the Rumble as well on Monday but I'm not seeing it.

[JayDizzle]

The Miz/Slater opener wasn't half bad.

Lot of arm work by Slater went nowhere because... he's a bum... and the finish could have came earlier but still, not a terrible match.

Sucks that the former world champ is now slumming it with the new version of fucking 3 Count.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

If Okada goes to the WWE and becomes Barry Chopsticks and I'm not able to get Okada v. Nakamura...I'mma be pissed.

[JayDizzle]

Khali/Nattie Neidhart/Hornswoggle (why does he still have a job) vs. the Brothers Not-Carlito/Rosa Mendes... sucked.

I wish I could remember more of Barrett/Kingston but while Barrett finally getting a shot to keep a upper-card title is tits, I just can't muster up enough of a fuck when he's fighting Kofi.

It's the basic strongman/flyer match but for whatever reason, I can't get hooked.

Layla/Tamina Snuka proved to me what the Women's Division was and it wasn't much after Phoenix left... err, got cut.