The General Wrestling Thread

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

TNA's first hour was unwatchable.

I can't imagine them grabbing anyone in that hour.

Your first match was an X-Division match in a cage...and it sucked.

Should have gone clean and simple...put guys like Joe and Daniels and let'em go for a bit. Guys have good chemistry in the ring and would have put on a good match...the Angle/Styles match was solid...you needed something like that at the beginning.

In the end, it was basically TNA throwing all of these cameos out there and hoping to attract people with it...a few cameos and a surprise appearance for run ins is ok...but they over did it, especially with some irrelevant wrestlers...the Nastys? Orlando Jordan? Terrible.

[dave]

Wow @ the ending of Raw.. cant believe Bret agreed to that for his return.

I agree. I thought that ending sucked.

Overall, other than Bret Hart himself, that RAW really did nothing for me (ok, maybe Maryse, but she's my favourite wrestler).

I think that ending actually hurt this comeback a little, don't you Kuzzy?

It just didn't feel right.

[FedEx227]

It makes me want to watch next week though to see if he gets his revenge.

Thus, success. That's what it's meant to be.

[The Buddha]

I agree with Fedex...if they woulda ended on clean slate nobody would expect Hart back next week, so they end it like that and now you know Bret will be back looking to get some payback.

[dave]

It makes me want to watch next week though to see if he gets his revenge.

Thus, success. That's what it's meant to be.

The WWE wants to draw this out to Wrestlemania.

If they're smart, they'll have Hart face Hornswoggle at the Royal Rumble in a tuneup match.

[BRUCE80]

Gotta say and it looks like I am in the minority here but I love what TNA is doing. Wrestling needs some personality bad and guys like Joe do nothing for me....Ill take the bad guy over him any day...here hoping he shows up and lays off the booze....

I guess I am showing my age...

WCW vs WWE/F back when the NWO was going on were some of the best wrestling shows and gimmicks ever.

I like it and hope it plays out like I think its going to.

Loved Hogan shutting Jarrett up.

I am sooooo sick of the WWE product that it makes me yearn for the old school stuff.

I found myself hoping Scott Norton and Virgil would show up..well maybe not Virg..

[SuperKevin]

I watched TNA last night and I agree, too many cameo appearances by washed up WWE guys. You're really not convincing everyone that you are the #1 wrestling organization if you have to rely on guys who were fired by the competition

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Gotta say and it looks like I am in the minority here but I love what TNA is doing. Wrestling needs some personality bad and guys like Joe do nothing for me....Ill take the bad guy over him any day...here hoping he shows up and lays off the booze....

I guess I am showing my age...

WCW vs WWE/F back when the NWO was going on were some of the best wrestling shows and gimmicks ever.

I like it and hope it plays out like I think its going to.

Loved Hogan shutting Jarrett up.

I am sooooo sick of the WWE product that it makes me yearn for the old school stuff.

I found myself hoping Scott Norton and Virgil would show up..well maybe not Virg..

The problem is...its already been done...the nWo reunions and rehashes have been done...hell, TNA did a spin off with the MEM (more of a Millionaires Club, but regardless)...

Wrestling needs new and fresh, not old, geriatric, and twice done.

[Bigpapa42]

The problem is...its already been done...the nWo reunions and rehashes have been done...hell, TNA did a spin off with the MEM (more of a Millionaires Club, but regardless)...

Wrestling needs new and fresh, not old, geriatric, and twice done.

Exactly. If I want to watch NWO stuff, I'll go watch old WCW. I'm not interested in seeing it reshashed three quarters of the way a decade and a half later. Hanging onto what worked in 1996 is not moving forward, not as a business or as a promotion. The MEM already ran for over a year, dominated the promotion, had no payoff, and built no new stars.

Samoa Joe might not have the most personality, but he is a credible monster big man and he can outright go in the ring. Isn't that what TNA is supposed to be about - in-ring action?

Plus they have talent like Nigel McGuiness/Desmond Wolfe, who is not only damned good in the ring but has a ton of personality. And they showcase that last night jobbing him to a midcarder after trying to build him to a main eventer. Awesome move.

Its supposed be moving forward, TNA, not backward.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Exactly. If I want to watch NWO stuff, I'll go watch old WCW. I'm not interested in seeing it reshashed three quarters of the way a decade and a half later. Hanging onto what worked in 1996 is not moving forward, not as a business or as a promotion. The MEM already ran for over a year, dominated the promotion, had no payoff, and built no new stars.

Samoa Joe might not have the most personality, but he is a credible monster big man and he can outright go in the ring. Isn't that what TNA is supposed to be about - in-ring action?

Plus they have talent like Nigel McGuiness/Desmond Wolfe, who is not only damned good in the ring but has a ton of personality. And they showcase that last night jobbing him to a midcarder after trying to build him to a main eventer. Awesome move.

Its supposed be moving forward, TNA, not backward.

Has Nigel won a match in TNA yet?

I also can't see Joe as the kind of guy a Hogan and Bischoff would push hard. Joe has been pushed as an equal to Kurt Angle and a top guy in the company, but there was never a true payoff and push and at this point, Joe is blah.

Lots of bad finishes, which is vintage WCW. Roll ups, run ins, Homicide getting stuck at the top of the cage :laugh:

The biggest thing that WCW suffered from in terms of creative, was never being able to get past the nWo. They could never get past it. It is what got them to the dance, but damn...at some point, you have to move on.

9 years later...they still haven't.

Biggest day for TNA ever...and what do they do...re-hash nWo junk.

[Epidemik]

Styles over Angle went a long way in saying that TNA is about their young talent. Although a bunch former WWE wrestlers all over the place clashed with that message. However the Val Venis at the end was FTW

[Epidemik]

went to the grand jury yesterday in Moore County of North Carolina. According to a spokesperson with the Moore County Court, the grand jury found that there was enough evidence in indicting Hardy and the case has been sent to Superior Court. Hardy’s case will be officially set on their docket within the next week. Hardy was set for a probable cause hearing on 1/27 in regard to his September 2009 drug arrest. That hearing would have determined whether there was enough evidence regarding the arrest to go on the grand jury, but is not a hearing that is absolutely required. It appears that prosecutors opted to forgo that hearing and go right to the grand jury in order to move the case along. Hardy was arrested on 9/11/09 on the following charges:

- Felony possession of cocaine.
- Felony drug trafficking of opium
- Felony possession with intent to redistribute a Schedule III drug (two counts).
- Maintaining a dwelling for drug use and/or distribution.
- Possession of drug paraphernalia. (misdemeanor)

[Epidemik]

After Raw Went Off The Air

Not Much but still thought it was pretty cool especially for the older wrestling fans

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MsjtLTu0Jk"]YouTube - Bret Hart Honored[/ame]

[Derrville]

1.5

:guitar:

[FedEx227]

I thought it was actually one of the better Raws in quite some time.

Good match and angle with Orton and Legacy.

Pretty good promos throughout. The Miz continues to be a good talker.

Generic, crappy DX stuff, but I got over it.