The General Wrestling Thread

[Epidemik]

I thought it was actually one of the better Raws in quite some time.

Good match and angle with Orton and Legacy.

Pretty good promos throughout. The Miz continues to be a good talker.

Generic, crappy DX stuff, but I got over it.

Its kinda hard for me to buy into the miz because ive seen him on MTV Challenges and stuff. But he's got a belt on him so he must be doing something right

[young2rice]

TNA was pretty sweet (outside of the botched ending to the x-division match)

I like all the callbacks
-Foley going up to Venis asking about Bischoff (since Venis used to be bischoff's assitant)
-Sting in the rafters stalking Hogan
-OJ going to Burke first thing.
-Flair watching

And I like how they're putting younger guys over, Hogan giving AJ the giant rub at the end, AJ pinning Angle clean. Pope getting a victory over Wolfe (was actually surprised they allowed that). Joe/Abyss match. AJ/Angle's match was a great match that lasted about 15-20 minutes on TV that was PPV quality, easily.

I hope this leads to Homicide getting a fued/singles push and more towards his crazy ROH character-ways and less previous TNA way.

Sean Waltman looked really good/healthy, curious to see how he can still do in the ring (hopefully x-division) since apparently he's been wrestling in mexico. Scott Hall made me mark with the Hey Yo!, he'd be a great manager/mouthpiece.

The Nasty Boys actually didn't make me throwup everywhere like I expected and actually entertained with their backstage scene.
I love Val Venis, one of the most criminally under-utilized wrestlers ever, glad to see him back.

Not sure how I feel about OJ though, I didn't like him in the WWE.

I like the heel direction that Krystal is having Lashley head. If she remains his mouthpiece he'll achieve much more.

Disappointed B.Money didn't get to wrestle, but at least there's some intrigue to find out who the masked man/backstage attackers are. (Kennedy/Tomko?)

Bischoff on tv is money he's such a great talker, liked all his segments.

Can't wait to see some solid matches with Hardy like Hardy vs. Angle/AJ/Daniels/etc etc

I'm also glad they didn't just blow their load in this show and kept/saved some stuff (Angelina Love return, RVD, reveal attackers, Flair's involvement, etc) to keep interest for the future shows. Plus leaving it on a "cliffhanger" of what Hogan's going to do as he seemed to be disappointed/disgusted by what Nash/Hall/Pac were doing at the end.

[EmpireWF]

Ratings info:

from f4w

-- Impact last night did a 1.5 rating and 2.2 million viewers. We don't have a rating for Raw yet but the show averaged 5.6 million viewers over the two hours, so the rating will be up quite a bit from recent weeks.

From the torch

Last night's edition of TNA Impact drew a 1.50 rating and averaged 2.20 million viewers over the course of three hours to be TNA's most-watched Impact episode ever.

Impact peaked with 2.90 million viewers for the 9:00 to 9:15 p.m. EST quarter-hour with Hulk Hogan's debut opposite WWE Raw opening with Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels.

TNA's previous high rating was a 1.33 rating and 1.97 million viewers on the April 2 Impact prior to WWE's WrestleMania weekend.

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Monday's live three-hour TNA Impact featuring the debut of Hulk Hogan delivered a first hour 1.69 rating and 2.5 million viewers to be the most-watched hour of TNA Impact in company history.

The second hour slipped to a 1.44 rating, but featured the most-watched 15 minutes in company history with a 1.88 quarter-hour rating for Hulk Hogan's debut at 9:00 p.m. EST opposite WWE Raw's Bret Hart return.

The second hour also featured the least-watched segment of the show with a 1.16 quarter-hour rating at the end of the hour (featuring Pope vs. Desmond Wolfe and an A.J. Styles interview) opposite WWE Raw's DX vs. Chris Jericho & Big Show tag title match.

The third hour declined to a 1.22 rating. The range of quarter-hour ratings was between 1.17 and 1.30, with the hour peaking in the final 15 minutes with a 1.30 rating for the end of the Kurt Angle vs. A.J. Styles match and Hulk Hogan watching the NWO beat down Mick Foley.

Monday's edition of WWE Raw featuring Bret Hart's return averaged 5.60 million viewers, which was the largest viewing audience since the August 24 Raw the night after Summerslam.

The show drew a very strong rating among males 18-49, drawing a 3.37 rating in the key demo. That was the highest M18-49 rating since the commercial-free Raw on June 22 averaged a 3.71 rating.

Other than the commercial-free Raw, the last time Raw drew a M18-49 demo rating greater than last night's Raw was the April 6 Raw the night after WrestleMania 26.

[Warner2BruceTD]

TNA will always be the same second rate copycat company they have been for years, until they stop comparing themselves with the "company up north" and give up the inferiority complex.

Telling viewers "soon we'll be #1" is the same as telling them "hey, we arent #1".

The definition of insanity is doing the same things over and over yet expecting different results. TNA sucks.

[Bigpapa42]

TNA pulling a 1.5 is impressive. Very good rating. Now they just need to make sure they maintain it. That's the hard part.

[EmpireWF]

W2B, you think theres a chance they go to Monday Nights full time after such a rating?

Next first run TNA show won't air until a week from Thursday.

[Warner2BruceTD]

W2B, you think theres a chance they go to Monday Nights full time after such a rating?

I think they probably will, mainly due to the ego's involved.

I'm not impressed with the number. Barely topped the previous all time high, but that's the modern day Hogan M.O....pop a big nostalgia rating, slowly slip into the pack as a draw.

They did nothing on that show that will bring people back. The theme of the show was confusing. What exactly is this "change"? Why did Hogan go heel on Jarrett?

AJ Styles was the only "new guy" who got any sort of rub. Beer Money, MCMG's, Homicide, all left laying. Nigel lost. Dinero got punked by Orlando Jordan. Orlando Jordan.

It was cool seeing new faces in TNA, but that wears off quick and at the end of the day it's still tired old TNA trying to piggyback Vince and looking like a modern day Thunder era WCW.

[EmpireWF]

Jeff Hardy was indicted today on all those drug charges so he has an uphill battle ahead of him...for his freedom.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Jeff Hardy was indicted today on all those drug charges so he has an uphill battle ahead of him...for his freedom.

Homicide had quite the uphill battle himself, trying to escape that retarded cage on live TV.

[Kuzzy Powers]

Homicide had quite the uphill battle himself, trying to escape that retarded cage on live TV.

That was the perfect set up for the whole night... a large amount of fail. Watching him struggle up there was hilarious. How can you do a match where some of the participants cant even physically perform what is required to win it?

[Warner2BruceTD]

That was the perfect set up for the whole night... a large amount of fail. Watching him struggle up there was hilarious. How can you do a match where some of the participants cant even physically perform what is required to win it?

I was never the biggest Homicide fan, and was pretty happy to see him leave ROH a few years back when his matches = instant concession stand break for me, but I felt bad for the guy last night. That was hard to watch.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

That was the perfect set up for the whole night... a large amount of fail. Watching him struggle up there was hilarious. How can you do a match where some of the participants cant even physically perform what is required to win it?

After that first match, I figure it was pretty much a foregone conclusion that the entire night was going to be terrible.

They should abandon that match completely because seemingly, only Frankie Kazarian can win it...then again, maybe the Steel Asylum can become Frankie's Casket Match?

[Warner2BruceTD]

After that first match, I figure it was pretty much a foregone conclusion that the entire night was going to be terrible.

They should abandon that match completely because seemingly, only Frankie Kazarian can win it...then again, maybe the Steel Asylum can become Frankie's Casket Match?

The funny thing is, they stole that match from AAA, where a bunch of coked up, overweight luchadores routinely scale that cage with Rob Van Dam cat like agility.

[dave]

Jim Cornette not a fan of Monday night.

http://whosslammingwho.podomatic.com/player/web/2010-01-05T11_03_21-08_00

[BRUCE80]

Wow Cornette needs to update his vocabulary. He comes off like a complete idiot...

Swear some more JC.... I understand you didnt like the shows, would really have liked to hear him break it down rather then hammer everything that went on.

There was more good then bad with each show IMO compared with whats gone on the last five years....and thats the first time I can say that in a long time for either organization.

Whats his solution to what ails the Pro Wrestling circut?