The General Wrestling Thread

[Kuzzy Powers]

Can somebody explain why Mark Henry is still employed? His gigantic 10 year massive fail contract expired years ago, and his fake push following the Michael Hayes KKK rantings is long over. What does this POS bring to the table, aside from always leaving a clean plate?

Vince likes to keep around big dudes that he can just randomly throw near the main event scene incase something goes wrong. Mark Henry is like his safety blanket. Similar to what Kane has been for years, but much more useless and less talented.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Charlie Hass, never used and eventually released. Probably top 10% in talent, could have been pushed a serious "athlete" type for the mid card, where he could have put young guys over and had solid matches involving mid card titles and shit.

Mark Henry, big fat slob who hasnt gotten over in 15 years, and never had a good match in his life.

[FedEx227]

You know Vince's big man fetish. The funny thing though... is he really isn't BIG. He's just... like...fat. He's, what, 6'1. I really can't explain it. I forgot how many times he got sent to OVW too. Jesus.

[Warner2BruceTD]

What was the best period of the WWE in recent years? It was when Benoit, Eddy, Mysterio, Edge, Worlds Greatest Tag Team, Angle, etc were working the mid/upper mid card and having great matches.

WCW, same thing. When they were hot, the mid card was always great. Jericho, Benoit, the luchadors, Eddy, etc.

People pay for the main event, but the mid card is where you build up the next set of main eventers. It shouldnt be a place for Mark Henry to waddle through awful matches. Nobody cares about Dolph Ziggler and his rest holds.

I'm ranting.

[IamMedellin]

Not ZIggy!!!

[FedEx227]

What was the best period of the WWE in recent years? It was when Benoit, Eddy, Mysterio, Edge, Worlds Greatest Tag Team, Angle, etc were working the mid/upper mid card and having great matches.

WCW, same thing. When they were hot, the mid card was always great. Jericho, Benoit, the luchadors, Eddy, etc.

People pay for the main event, but the mid card is where you build up the next set of main eventers. It shouldnt be a place for Mark Henry to waddle through awful matches. Nobody cares about Dolph Ziggler and his rest holds.

I'm ranting.

Yeah, we were talking about this with some people at Night of Champions. I have no desire whatsoever to watch midcard matches. Ted Dibiase vs. John Morrison in the dark match you could've heard a pin drop. Kofi vs. Dolph for the 80th time. Just terrible.

And you're exactly right. The reason I watched Nitro so intently for that first hour before Raw was the luchas and Jericho. I was legit interested in watching those guys go.

Somewhere along the line WWE lost sight of having workrate in the sub, and your big money draws in the main.

The cookie cutter match stuff has just gotten to horrible, horrible levels where I really couldn't tell you the difference between a Drew McIntyre, Dolph Ziggler or Ted Dibiase match.

[IamMedellin]

I hate the laptop GM

[SuperKevin]

Why do you have the most boring random paired tag team of Cody Rhodes and Drew McIntyre squash one of the only credible tag teams you have in the Hart Foundation????

[SuperKevin]

Chris Jericho is fat

[SuperKevin]

Why even waste the fans time by ending Raw with a 10 minute long no contest every week?

[JayDizzle]

Orton punting Jericho (a glorified JTTS at this point) signified that Sheamus' chances at HiaC are pretty much slim and none as far as getting the belt back.

However, we've seen that Sheamus doesn't have it in him to be monsterous enough to take on Psycho Orton as the Celtic "Warrior" can't win a fight without cheating, a lucky stip (Tables Match against Cena) or beating up a jobber...

So why care?

If Sheamus had the belt during all this build-up and kept it due to being a Heel, the denounment for this whole feud may have reach Honkey Tonk Man proportions.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

What was the best period of the WWE in recent years? It was when Benoit, Eddy, Mysterio, Edge, Worlds Greatest Tag Team, Angle, etc were working the mid/upper mid card and having great matches.

WCW, same thing. When they were hot, the mid card was always great. Jericho, Benoit, the luchadors, Eddy, etc.

People pay for the main event, but the mid card is where you build up the next set of main eventers. It shouldnt be a place for Mark Henry to waddle through awful matches. Nobody cares about Dolph Ziggler and his rest holds.

I'm ranting.

Paul Heyman's Smackdown.

[Warner2BruceTD]

You think WWE sucks now?

6/29 White Plains, NY (WWF): Brooklyn Brawler b The Predator (Mike Bollea), Bob Backlund b Blake Beverly, Mr. Hughes b Jim Duggan, WWF title: Yokozuna b Bret Hart, Crush b Doink the Clown, Bushwhackers & Tiger Jackson b Blake Beverly & Damien Demento & Little Louie

6/29 Morristown, NJ (WWF - 900): Jim Powers b Tazmaniac *1/2, Luna Vachon b Sensational Sherri **1/2, Randy Savage b Doink the Clown II (Steve Keirn) *1/2, Virgil b Mike Sharpe **, Adam Bomb b Tito Santana DUD, WWF tag title: Rick & Scott Steiner b Money Inc. **

6/29 San Bernardino, CA (WWF - 800): 1-2-3 Kid b Terry Taylor **3/4, Papa Shango b Louie Spicolli *1/4, Head Shrinkers b Smoking Gunns **3/4, Undertaker b Lex Luger-COR *, Razor Ramon b Tonga Kid 1/2*, Tatanka DCOR Bam Bam Bigelow **1/4, IC title: Shawn Michaels b Mr. Perfect ***
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And you thought Tazz debuted at Royal Rumble vs Kurt Angle....nope. It was JIM POWERS in Morristown NJ, and he LOST.

Virgil vs. Iron Mike Sharpe, drawing that 900 fan packed house.

How about Blake Beverly pulling double duty in White Plains??? And who could forget the famous Blake Beverly/Damian Demento/Little Louie 6-man tag team?

Anyone who paid for these shows shold be sent a refund, some 17 years later. Do the right thing, Vince.

[SHOGUN]

ROH is awesome. A shame the show is only an hour. I've come to appreciate ROH's announcing crew.

No matter what they do, I simply can't buy broads like Angelina Love and Daizee Haze being these badass top-tier wrestlers. They're tiny and incredibly skinny. I just can't do it.

However, we've seen that Sheamus doesn't have it in him to be monsterous enough to take on Psycho Orton as the Celtic "Warrior" can't win a fight without cheating, a lucky stip (Tables Match against Cena) or beating up a jobber...

So why care?

If Sheamus had the belt during all this build-up and kept it due to being a Heel, the denounment for this whole feud may have reach Honkey Tonk Man proportions.

Has Sheamus beat ANYBODY relevant cleanly? I really can't think of it. He's been smartly booked as a heel, but aside from Zach Ryder (who is a bum) I can't think of anyone.

LOL @ Jericho's pre-match promo. I died when he listed Kevin Nash, Oz and Diesel.

[SHOGUN]

LOL. Prince Nana's car gets repo'd. Skip to 12:00 mark.

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