The General Wrestling Thread

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Paul, once again, shows his genius.

Truer words have never been spoken.

[SHOGUN]

NXT was awesome this week and it hardly had anything to do with the girls. Best episode ever.

CM Punk + Michael Cole on commentary = GOLD. So many quotables.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Rey Mysterio Jr & Chris Jericho elected to Wrestling Observer HOF.

Jericho iis deserving, I'm on the fence about Rey.

[JayDizzle]

Rey Mysterio Jr & Chris Jericho elected to Wrestling Observer HOF.

Jericho iis deserving, I'm on the fence about Rey.

Rey's early work to his ECW days, WCW while skipping the "Filthy Animals" phase and then up until he got the Big Gold Belt.

Anything I skipped or after he got the title is a wash.

[EmpireWF]

Rey Mysterio Jr & Chris Jericho elected to Wrestling Observer HOF.

Jericho iis deserving, I'm on the fence about Rey.

Rey was a guarantee so why not now?

[Warner2BruceTD]

Rey was a guarantee so why not now?

Because I'm not positive I see him at that level.

[Warner2BruceTD]

I'm also bafffled at Kensuke Sasaki failing to get in, and actually losing support.

Sasaki headlined the Tokyo Dome at the peak of New Japan, and still headlines wherever he goes to this day. His work is top notch. I don't get it.

[FedEx227]

Dave has never been a huge Sasaki fan though, right?

[Warner2BruceTD]

Dave has never been a huge Sasaki fan though, right?

Dave is only one vote, though.

Headline as a single? Check.

Headliner as a tag team? With both Hase and Hawk, double check.

Great worker? Check.

Star during hot period? Check.

One of two men (along with melty face Takayama) to hold the IWGP, GHC, and Triple Crown.

Still going strong today, headlining everywhere he goes. All of those big New Japan stars from the 90's are in. I don't get it.

[FedEx227]

Okay, I didn't know the other New Japan guys were in too, I wasn't sure if it was bias towards those guys or whatever.

That is a bit odd. Especially considering Mysterio went above him.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Steve Williams missed by ONE VOTE

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Because I'm not positive I see him at that level.

There are lots of guys that are in the WOHOF that don't look like they should be on that level...and a lot of guys that aren't in that should be...

Whatever...it happens.

[Warner2BruceTD]

For those interested, here's the voting...

WRESTLING OBSERVER

HALL OF FAME BALLOTING RESULTS

Votes needed for induction into the Hall of Fame: U.S. & Canada modern (109), U.S. & Canada Historical (81), Japan (69), Mexico (45), Europe (38)


PERFORMER VOTES PCT 2009

REY MYSTERIO 136 75% 56%

CHRIS JERICHO 115 64% 52%

Steve Williams 68 59.6% ----

The Assassins 76 56% 57%

Dr. Wagner Sr. 41 55% 47%

Rock & Roll Express 97 54% 41%

Hans Schmidt 70 52% 47%

Lou Albano 95 52% 19%

Mick McManus 32 51% 32%

Kinji Shibuya 67 50% ----

Jesse Ventura 89 49% 50%

Gary Hart 86 48% 34%

Henri DeGlane 29 46% ----

Red Bastien 59 44% 48%

Fabulous Moolah 80 44% 44%

Kent Walton 28 44% ----

Dick Murdoch 77 43% 46%

Dr. Alfonso Morales 32 43% 40%

Don Owen 74 41% 43%

Kensuke Sasaki 47 41% 57%

John Tolos 52 39% 37%

Ivan Koloff 70 39% 40%

Atlantis 29 39% 19%

Jerry Jarrett 68 38% 29%

Tim “Mr. Wrestling” Woods 47 35% 39%

Gorilla Monsoon 64 35% 30%

Karloff Lagarde 26 35% 27%

Carlos Colon 62 34% 40%

Wilbur Snyder 44 ` 33% 50%

Bill Apter 59 33% ----

Blue Panther 25 33% 35%

Jackie Pallo 20 32% 30%

Rollerball Mark Rocco 20 32% 48%

L.A. Park 23 31% ----

Villano III 23 31% 31%

Johnny Saint 19 30% ---

Gene & Ole Anderson 53 29% 23%

Jimmy Snuka 52 29% 13%

George Gordienko 33 29% 32%

Vampiro 20 27% 11%

Big Daddy 17 27% 44%

Perro Aguayo Jr. 19 25% ----

Kendo Nagasaki 16 25% 35%

Cien Caras 18 24% ----

Seiji Sakaguchi 26 23% 43%

Kiyoshi Tamura 26 23% 45%

Von Brauners/Saul Weingeroff 30 22% ----

Sgt. Slaughter 40 22% 17%

Volk Han 25 22% 39%

Pedro Morales 38 21% 31%

Sting 37 20% 26%

Mr. Wrestling II 36 20% 14%

Owen Hart 35 19% 23%

Curt Hennig 35 19% 23%

Edge 32 18% 22%

Enrique Torres 23 17% 31%

Horst Hoffman 11 17% ----

Jim Crockett Jr. 29 16% 21%

Huracan Ramirez 11 15% ----

Sabu 20 11% 11%

Gran Hamada 12 11% 27%

Less than 10% of the votes from the region and dropped from next year’s balloting: Cowboy Bob Ellis, Yukon Eric, Bearcat Wright, Cibernetico, Dr. Wagner Jr., Giant Haystacks


ADDED TO THE BALLOT NEXT YEAR: Spyros Arion, Batista, Ray Gunkel

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Kensuke Sasaki, who tied with The Assassins in missing by three votes last year, fell out of contention this year. I can’t really come up with a logical reason, because he continued to headline and had some strong main event matches. What appeared to happen is that the addition of Steve Williams took him out of the position of being in many people’s eyes the strongest Japanese name on the ballot. In fact, all of the Japanese candidates fell in this election, including Seiji Sakaguchi, Volk Han and Kiyoshi Tamura. For Han and Tamura, the latter of whom was a strong contender to get in when he first appeared on the ballot, what is killing them is that their style of wrestling is gone and each year that goes by, they are remembered less and less.

TOP TEN AMONG DIFFERENT VOTING GROUPS

ACTIVE WRESTLERS

1. Steve Williams

2. Rey Mysterio

3. Kensuke Sasaki

4. The Assassins

5. John Tolos

6. Chris Jericho

7. Rock & Roll Express

8. Vampiro

9. Karloff Lagarde

10. Blue Panther



FORMER WRESTLERS

1. Dick Murdoch

2. Red Bastien

3. Steve Williams

4. John Tolos

5. Tim “Mr. Wrestling” Woods

6. Jesse Ventura

7. Fabulous Moolah

8. George Gordienko

9. Wilbur Snyder

10. Lou Albano



REPORTERS

1. Mick McManus

2. The Assassins

3. Rey Mysterio

4. Chris Jericho

5. Perro Aguayo Jr.

6. Jesse Ventura

7. Kensuke Sasaki

8. Dr. Wagner Sr.

9. Red Bastien

10. Wilbur Snyder



HISTORIANS

1. Henri DeGlane

2. Hans Schmidt

3. Don Owen

4. Gary Hart

5. Fabulous Moolah

6. Kinji Shibuya

7. Lou Albano

8. Kent Walton

9. Jerry Jarrett

10. Dr. Wagner Sr.

Current wrestlers & reporters think Sasake belongs, old timers & historians don't. This leads me to believe he will get in eventually, as the old timers die, & the current wrestlers become former wrestlers. He missed by 3% last year.

[IamMedellin]

jesus, Lacey von erich makes Alicia fox look like bret hart, work-wise

I really wanna lick the crack of Velvet Sky's luscious Ass

[dave]

Dave has never been a huge Sasaki fan though, right?

I have nothing against Sasaki.

On topic: Captain Lou Albano belongs in every pro wrestling hall of fame.