The General Wrestling Thread

[EmpireWF]

Those must be all the shitty catchphrases he was pushing.

Srsly?

[Mogriffjr]

Agree with this completely. Rock came across as frazzled. Caught off-guard.

Gotta give Cena credit, he gave this card more cred than The Rock.

Frankly, this whole Twitter trending thing is hurting The Rock. Makes him seem stupid and reaching.

Exactly what they wanted to do...WWE ftw...didnt one of u say they trying to put over cena anyway?

[SHOGUN]

I fell asleep on RAW. Doesn't seem like I missed too much.

ROH has been pretty good this month and seems to have found their groove. Jay Lethal/Davey Richards was awesome. If you haven't been watching, I'd at least look for that match.

CMLL finally stopped the 2 out of 3 victory tags and started some tag team tournament. La Sombra + Averno back on TV =

[SHOGUN]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duB03KWPkBE"]Roses Is Red.... #WatchROH - YouTube[/ame]

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

There are two fundamental problems with the two FOILs (Jericho and Rock) for these Wrestlemania programs...

- They are both pretty rusty and not in a groove yet.

and most importantly...

- They have nothing to say.

The Rock's promos for a year, have basically come down to "You are bitchmade!" While Jericho's come down to "You are a wannabe!"

That is the crux of their hatred for the other guy...awesome. But because they are pretty rusty, and for the Rock, because he shows up once every 3 months, he shows up to get the crowd to pop over actually making a point, they come off a bit outclassed in promos by the guys that are in their groove.

A good example was, last night during the Punk-Jericho exchange, Punk was able to make his general comments, PLUS, adding and making clear, his actual point (Maybe Jericho's upset because while he did all of these things, he was never "the man" like Punk is "the man" right now, and it is eating him alive)...Punk just quickly made his point, and Jericho couldn't rebut at all.

Now whether or not he was supposed to or not, I don't know, I just expect Jericho to come back on that, and he didn't, so, he looks outclassed.

I won't get into the Rock, because he's a special circumstance. He obviously gets the crowd behind him 100%, so, I can't hate, but the actual discussion points between Cena and Rock favor Cena, and he's been hitting his bullet points out of the park the past few weeks. It doesn't help when Rock basically makes some points to start off his promo, not to Cena, but to somebody in the back that has been talking shit about him to Meltzer or whomever.

Him having shit written on his wrist shows how rusty he is...that was pretty embarrassing. I noticed that the first second they flashed past his wrist. Hidden in it all, I think he had some good points, but they were buried between "trending", "Kung Pow Bitch", random anti-Cena chants, and goosebumps, and then Cena leaving him speechless.

[EmpireWF]

Pretty sure Jericho's just pissed about Punk stealing his catchphrase Larry Punk goes all Freudian on him


And TMZ has footage of WWE taping Legends House.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/28/wwe-legends-house-zumba-dance-class-video/

"Hacksaw" Jim Duggan ... along with WWE legends like Jimmy "Mouth of the South" Hart, "Rowdy" Roddy Piper, Hillbilly Jim, Pat Patterson, "Mean" Gene Okerlund, Howard Finkel, and Tony Atlas all hit the dance studio in Palm Springs

This is gonna be so bad, it may be good.

[Kuzzy Powers]

That Legends House should be hilarious. LOL @ Mean Gene in the back trying to mack on some pussy instead of dancing.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Legends House is going to be amazing.

They just need to make sure they are always in costume. Piper should always be in a kilt. Hacksaw always with a 2x4 and/or American flag. Mean Gene always in a suit with a microphone in his hand. Hillbilly Jim in the overalls.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Forget Jericho, Punk stole the BITW gimmick from Bryan.

[Warner2BruceTD]

I fell asleep on RAW. Doesn't seem like I missed too much.

ROH has been pretty good this month and seems to have found their groove. Jay Lethal/Davey Richards was awesome. If you haven't been watching, I'd at least look for that match.

CMLL finally stopped the 2 out of 3 victory tags and started some tag team tournament. La Sombra + Averno back on TV =

Which CMLL show are you watching? Galavision, FOX Sports Espanol, or something else? I keep looking for it and cant find it. The downloads I come across are 20 minute shows full of mid carders. I swear CMLL has like 19 shows.

[SHOGUN]

Which CMLL show are you watching? Galavision, FOX Sports Espanol, or something else? I keep looking for it and cant find it. The downloads I come across are 20 minute shows full of mid carders. I swear CMLL has like 19 shows.

Galavision. Had no idea about the others.

[s@ppisgod]

There are two fundamental problems with the two FOILs (Jericho and Rock) for these Wrestlemania programs...

- They are both pretty rusty and not in a groove yet.

and most importantly...

- They have nothing to say.

The Rock's promos for a year, have basically come down to "You are bitchmade!" While Jericho's come down to "You are a wannabe!"

That is the crux of their hatred for the other guy...awesome. But because they are pretty rusty, and for the Rock, because he shows up once every 3 months, he shows up to get the crowd to pop over actually making a point, they come off a bit outclassed in promos by the guys that are in their groove.

A good example was, last night during the Punk-Jericho exchange, Punk was able to make his general comments, PLUS, adding and making clear, his actual point (Maybe Jericho's upset because while he did all of these things, he was never "the man" like Punk is "the man" right now, and it is eating him alive)...Punk just quickly made his point, and Jericho couldn't rebut at all.

Now whether or not he was supposed to or not, I don't know, I just expect Jericho to come back on that, and he didn't, so, he looks outclassed.

I won't get into the Rock, because he's a special circumstance. He obviously gets the crowd behind him 100%, so, I can't hate, but the actual discussion points between Cena and Rock favor Cena, and he's been hitting his bullet points out of the park the past few weeks. It doesn't help when Rock basically makes some points to start off his promo, not to Cena, but to somebody in the back that has been talking shit about him to Meltzer or whomever.

Him having shit written on his wrist shows how rusty he is...that was pretty embarrassing. I noticed that the first second they flashed past his wrist. Hidden in it all, I think he had some good points, but they were buried between "trending", "Kung Pow Bitch", random anti-Cena chants, and goosebumps, and then Cena leaving him speechless.

Pretty much. I don't really get the bullet points written on his wrist thing as a roflcopter situation. I get it. He's a busy guy and this is no longer his livelihood. He's a little unprepared. It's almost to be expected. The two just aren't put in a position to succeed in promos versus their counter-parts. Which may be even more of the plan to get them over. You've got two guys who are really putting together some of their best work to this point. Everyone has given Cena adulation for his promos recently, and Punk had a hotter stretch than even his biggest indy fans expected last year in the big leagues.

It puts guys like Rock and Jericho in a tough spot to look better, or even as good. And those guys were previously two of the absolute best on the mic in the last 20 years. It's stacking the deck when you have Punk come out with the belt and talk about how he's been the champion and defending the title while Jericho has barely been back 6 weeks, sans flashy jacket promos. It's "Hey, I'm the WWE champ, best in the world, hottest thing in wrestling today" vs. "Hey, I was really good a few years back. I have references!"

Rock/Cena is completely one-sided. Cena has free reign, where as Rock comes in once in a blue moon and tries to get over with nothing. As good as he can be on the mic, he's handicapped. So many things working against him. That he isn't there, that a large portion of the WWE's audience of 5-12 year olds don't now who he is, that the things he's saying about being back for good are garbage. He's trying to sell a really bad hand, and it's not working. Regardless of the bullet points being written on him, which I really don't think is that inexcusable, he's floundering.

[BigBiss]

The only difference between the bullet points on rockys arm and the ones in Cena's head is that Rocky didn't need a writer to come up with his

[krulmichael]

The only difference between the bullet points on rockys arm and the ones in Cena's head is that Rocky didn't need a writer to come up with his

No...but Dwayne did.

[JayDizzle]

No...but Dwayne did.

MS Paint is a motherfucker, ain't it?

For real though, Rock will be all right ring-wise.

His ego will make sure of it... he just won't sell like he used to.