The General Wrestling Thread

[JimLeavy59]

TNA had some really good things going last year it seemed like they realized they should be pushing the younger guys who aren't ex WWE. And then Aces and 0.8's happened.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Aces + 8's has just run its course, but its done with complete overkill. This faction is going on a year and a half old. A year in a half in wrestling is EONS.

[EmpireWF]

I don't know if it was posted earlier but go check out Jon Snowden's article about Bryan at BR.

Aside from misspelling Sal Rinauro's name...awesome stuff.

[s@ppisgod]

TNA has painted themselves into a corner in terms of their roster. They need more new faces and new mqtch-ups, but most of the new guys are either A) random, mediocre indy wrestlers coming through Gut Check and are either not talented enough or pushed at all, or both or B) old WWE guys who either aren't capable to or don't care enough to hold up their end of the bargain in matches and feuds.

Think about it, guys like Kaz, Daniels, AJ, Joe, Sabin, Storm, Roode, even Sting, Bully, and Angle have been there for ages. Angle and Joe can go out there and put on a 4 1/2 * match and people don't care because it's been done to death. This isn't the early 90's when you could put Flair/Sting on for the 1,000th time and people still cared. These morons have no attention span, and can't wait to get on their phones. Mix in the cuts and the new working roster size and even IF they EEEEEVER managed to write a good storyline, it wouldn't even make a dent because chances are the match will suck or have been overdone by now, or again, both....

[Warner2BruceTD]

All Japan, which if you've been following the story of the roster split has a very dire roster situation, will start using Low Ki & D-Lo Brown in September. It also looks like they've made some sort of agreement with Kensuke Sasaki's Kensuke Office, since there is a strong All Japan presence on the next Diamond Ring show, and Miyahara of Kensuke Office is working the All Japan September tour. This weakens the NOAH depth, as Kensuke had been working with NOAH the last five years or so.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

TNA has painted themselves into a corner in terms of their roster. They need more new faces and new mqtch-ups, but most of the new guys are either A) random, mediocre indy wrestlers coming through Gut Check and are either not talented enough or pushed at all, or both or B) old WWE guys who either aren't capable to or don't care enough to hold up their end of the bargain in matches and feuds.

Think about it, guys like Kaz, Daniels, AJ, Joe, Sabin, Storm, Roode, even Sting, Bully, and Angle have been there for ages. Angle and Joe can go out there and put on a 4 1/2 * match and people don't care because it's been done to death. This isn't the early 90's when you could put Flair/Sting on for the 1,000th time and people still cared. These morons have no attention span, and can't wait to get on their phones. Mix in the cuts and the new working roster size and even IF they EEEEEVER managed to write a good storyline, it wouldn't even make a dent because chances are the match will suck or have been overdone by now, or again, both....

They have no money to pay anyone other than the guys they already have. They've restructured the roster, all of the way to the management team to steamline cost.

TNA has a pretty consistent fanbase. They've got 1M watchers regardless of anything else. Sounds great? Unfortunately, they don't spend money, they've never spent money, and they never will spend money.

TNA needs to spicen up a very bland roster. These dudes have been together for the most part, for 5+ years. We've seen everything a million times. Nothing is fresh. They started bringing in fresh talent, but they kept losing money.

[s@ppisgod]

They have no money to pay anyone other than the guys they already have. They've restructured the roster, all of the way to the management team to steamline cost.

TNA has a pretty consistent fanbase. They've got 1M watchers regardless of anything else. Sounds great? Unfortunately, they don't spend money, they've never spent money, and they never will spend money.

TNA needs to spicen up a very bland roster. These dudes have been together for the most part, for 5+ years. We've seen everything a million times. Nothing is fresh. They started bringing in fresh talent, but they kept losing money.

They spend money, just on stupid shit. They spent money on Hogan/Bischoff/RVD/Sting, and making Impact live and taking it on the road. They do all that and all it does is change the crowd, the location, and the guys in the back watching the same AJ/Daniels match that bores everyone. Think about that. Those guys are fucking awesome and a reason why TNA grew to the size it's at now and have great chemistry together. And they can't offer anything in the ring together anymore. A damn shame. If they spent as much money on the talent they bring in from the indies as they do on Hogan and Anderson and the set and bringing the show to the outskirts of whatever big city they're in, maybe they'd drum up some actual interest.

[SuperKevin]

They spend money, just on stupid shit. They spent money on Hogan/Bischoff/RVD/Sting, and making Impact live and taking it on the road. They do all that and all it does is change the crowd, the location, and the guys in the back watching the same AJ/Daniels match that bores everyone. Think about that. Those guys are fucking awesome and a reason why TNA grew to the size it's at now and have great chemistry together. And they can't offer anything in the ring together anymore. A damn shame. If they spent as much money on the talent they bring in from the indies as they do on Hogan and Anderson and the set and bringing the show to the outskirts of whatever big city they're in, maybe they'd drum up some actual interest.

Well taking the show on the road was necessary. The Orlando crowd was getting stale and they were about to lose their lease on the Impact Zone anyway

[FedEx227]

Perhaps it was necessary, but TNA appeared to do little to no cost analysis on it. They added $1.2M in expenses each month with little to no revenue increase. That's not a great way to run a business.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Perhaps it was necessary, but TNA appeared to do little to no cost analysis on it. They added $1.2M in expenses each month with little to no revenue increase. That's not a great way to run a business.

Sometimes, a business needs to make that expenditure to expand their business. Its just clear that TNA can not expand their business. They've had the same fanbase for years now.

[FedEx227]

Definitely, the problem was they struck while the iron was.... lukewarm at best. All their other evolution came at realistic points, the move from PPV to TV with Fox Sports, move to Spike, etc. This move was not.

[FedEx227]

Nich bringing the fucking good in this piece. Statistical study on WWE PPV buys in 2012. for us nerdz.

Despite pay-per-view being less important to WWE’s bottom line than it was a decade ago, it’s still one of the most profitable revenue streams the company has, and it’s the one WWE’s wrestlers and writers have immediate, direct impact on than any other. It’s not a test of corporate’s skills in negotiating a new television contract or beholden to the zeitgeist of the television advertising world. It’s a great, nearly instant indicator of who (and what) is clicking with the audience. Its money coming directly out of fans’ pockets for something they want to pay to see.

http://www.voicesofwrestling.com/2013/08/16/which-wwe-ppvs-did-better-than-they-should-have/

[Liquidrob]

BOOM

[SuperKevin]

Apparently TNA finally fired Brooke Hogan

[Leftwich]

I feel like WWE is gonna let Daniel Bryan win the title and run another "Austin v Corporation" angle.