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The only way I can see this getting fucked up is if they immediately re-insert Cena into the #1 babyface role when he comes back in 4 months. That will essentially prove that Bryan was just keeping the seat warm while Cena was recovering.
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This is by far the most buzz worthy program WWE has done in a long time. Anxious to see the rating tomorrow.Comment
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Night of Champions was Cena vs Del Rio for the WWE title, I know that for a fact.
I dont remember what the next month was.
Besides, I have no idea what this has to do with this current angle. There is no Cena around now, and Bryan is clearly, without question, the top babyface at this moment, and in the top money drawing program. The Punk/Nash thing was poop, they misread that one. This Bryan program is $$$.Comment
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We're dissolving this to different conversations...What New Japan is doing with Okada is no different than what the WWE did with Punk today or Savage in the 80's...its trying to make another guy...and its worked for all parties involved. Just because you may not hit the same peak as another guy, making another guy is vital to the top guy retaining his drawing power.
Wasn't there just an article on VoW that basically put this into numerical form? I mean, Cena is losing a bit of his steam...Punk has been a proven draw.Comment
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Punk and HHH main evented Night of Champions
Punk/Cena/Del Rio main evented Hell in a Cell
Cena/Del Rio main evented Vengeance - Punk/HHH had a mid-card match versus AwesomeTruth.
TheRock/Cena v. AwesomeTruth headlined Survivor Series and Punk beat Del Rio for the title in the semi-main.
Punk/Miz/Del Rio main evented TLC
Punk/Ziggler was the semi-main event of the Royal Rumble (Rumble was the main event)
Cena/Kane main evented Elimination Chamber.
Then WrestleMania.Comment
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I never said Punk wasn't a draw. I said he wasn't at the same level as Cena. Similar to how Savage never matched Hogan.
Where I think Okada differs, is I think he has a real chance to surpass Tanahashi. Doesn't mean it will happen.
And I happen to think Bryan has a higher ceiling than Punk.
I don't know, I just don't see how being positioned as the top guy in the top program with the top heels is a step backwards. In my opinion, this is the best job they've done elevating someone in a long time. You want to look at steps backwards, look at Ziggler.Comment
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He was positioned in the top program with the top guy in the company already...putting him back in chase mode before you give him a chance to see if he's a legit draw as the top face by being the champ on a few pay per views would have been wise before you put him back in chase mode.
This method of booking just has never really worked...and they've had top guys involved before...its not something we haven't seen before (a few times with Triple H, funny enough). We've seen it with Punk, we've seen it with Jericho, we've seen it with The Undertaker and quite a few others. You know...maybe Punk never became John Cena's peer as a draw because when he was white fucking hot they took the rocket pack off of him. The same can be said for Jericho or 'Taker. Maybe Danielson never usurps Punk as a draw which means he never usurps Cena. These guys all ended up being very strong draws...but they weren't "top draws" because they all had shitty re-chase programs after they already "made it".
Okada is now a proven draw and becoming really strong, because when they gave him the ball, they let him run with it. They didn't just drop him back into chase mode.Last edited by LiquidLarry2GhostWF; 08-19-2013, 11:49 PM.Comment
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I would argue that there is more money in him chasing than being chased, for a multitude of reasons. One being it's a much better story. Two being he's a natural underdog. Three being that they can build to a big title match where people will be dying for him to get his comeuppance. Four being the McMahons are essentially headlining WrestleMania this year as the direction is building the show around McMahon Family Madness.
What is the better story, Bryan trying to overcome the odds and win the title, or Bryan fending off Orton? It's not even close.Comment
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That isn't true. He lost the title back, had to fight through G1 last year to earn a title shot, and even lost the rematch before he won it back for good. He had a long chase. It's actually VERY similar to what is happening with Bryan.
Anyway, we are going in circles. I'm surprised you don't like this direction.Comment
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Firstly...the money is in the chase...but he's already chased...and overcame and there is your payoff...after the payoff, the money is in that character defending. If you can provide an adequate example where there payoff was a hit, only to immediately be dropped back down into chase mode again to make more money, I'd be curious to see it.
Numbers two and three are really irrelevant...he was already the underdog and overcame...doing the same thing again is silly. You can still do number three down the road after you revel in the payoff.
As for the McMahons being a headline on WrestleMania...when you might have Rock back, Lesnar, Cena will be back...at best, McMahons are playing fourth fiddle at WrestleMania. The McMahons are your equivalent of your version of Sting.Comment
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Your memory has been shotty tonight, bruh.
I know you didn't miss his four month title run before Tanahashi won the title back. Its not similar to what is happening with Bryan at all. Okada was given a chance to establish himself in his first run...and he did! They then put him back into chase mode four months later. Not 5 minutes later.
The equivalent would have been Bryan winning, then headlining a few pay per views, losing the title at Survivor Series, then coming back and winning the Royal Rumble, putting him back into the chase position.Comment
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