The General Wrestling Thread

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Curtis Axel is the real face of the WWE.

A guy who is desperate for some Indy or Overseas grooming. Think: Harry Smith.

[JimLeavy59]

While these guys are down in NXT the WWE really should let them work indy shows. It would help.

[Leftwich]

A guy who is desperate for some Indy or Overseas grooming. Think: Harry Smith.

Which is why I've never got that WWE doesn't have a working agreement with Japanese promotions. Could benefit both WWE and NJPW

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

While these guys are down in NXT the WWE really should let them work indy shows. It would help.

NXT essentially runs Indy shows. Local to Central and North Florida...they run these little "house shows" but again, you're with the same type of crowd. Same guys go to NXT tapings go to the FCW now NXT house shows they run locally.

With that said...NXT is the perfect springboard for the already established indy guys to come in and get acquainted with the WWE style. I'm not sure there is much to gain from a Mojo Rawley or Bo Dallas going essentially to WWE developmental.

What they need to do is stop bringing in these 22-25 year olds fresh out of the NFL or other alt-sport they are in...if they want to wrestle, let'em travel a bit.

Maybe they are cool with Big E or Bray Wyatt being the types they churn out, i s'pose.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Which is why I've never got that WWE doesn't have a working agreement with Japanese promotions. Could benefit both WWE and NJPW

Nothing exists or matters outside of the WWE bubble.

[Warner2BruceTD]

While these guys are down in NXT the WWE really should let them work indy shows. It would help.

Excursions. Excursions. Excursions.

They have the money & resources to send these guys anyplace they want. It would work wonders. Like larry says, look at Davey Boy Smith Jr. Look at Lance Archer. And these weren't scrubs before, just lacked seasoning, confidence, experience, or all of the above.

[Warner2BruceTD]

[Warner2BruceTD]

Viewers gained/lost post SummerSlam through the end of Bryan's last PPV main event vs Orton:

Biggest Gainers    w/ Overrun    w/o Overrun
Daniel Bryan            618,850     283,667 
HHH                     569,250     211,000 
Big Show                516,857     358,900 
Brad Maddox             479,000     479,000 
Goldust                 457,000     457,000 
Stephanie McMahon       436,600     365,300 
Randy Orton             424,550     251,071 
Paul Heyman             407,125     407,125 
Seth Rollins            341,646     (20,800)
CM Punk                 339,778     339,778 
Roman Reigns            325,646     (20,800)
John Cena               323,600     229,500 
Dean Ambrose            279,617     (133,500)
Big E Langston          179,750     179,750 
Cody Rhodes             176,000     176,000 
Ryback                  89,714     89,714 
Jack Swagger            35,667     35,667 
Miz                     21,222     21,222 
Antonio Cesaro          18,143     18,143 
Curtis Axel             18,143     18,143 

Biggest Losers    
Cameron                 (765,000)
Layla                   (748,500)
Naomi                   (678,800)
Aksana                  (451,600)
R-Truth                 (407,833)
Alicia Fox              (396,400)
Brie Bella              (393,750)
Fandango                (328,625)
Natalya                 (314,429)
Dolph Ziggler           (273,125)
Nikki Bella             (264,000)
Tamina Snuka            (264,000)
Great Khali             (251,000)
Bray Wyatt              (233,600)
AJ                      (222,000)
Usos                    (215,000)
Santino Marella         (195,000)
Luke Harper             (189,000)
Erick Rowan             (189,000)
Kofi Kingston           (162,571)

[JimLeavy59]

People know when Cameron or Naomi come on its time to see what else is on lol.

[Kuzzy Powers]

The people love Brad Maddox. This cannot be ignored.

[Warner2BruceTD]

I can't take credit for this, but it backs up my point earlier that WWE robot workers have no clue what to do when faced with a hostile crowd or any adversity in a match.

Somebody on another board pointed out that Sheamus going through with the scripted WrestleMania sign point after the crowd had already turned on him was pretty stupid and led to even louder boo's. That's the kind of shit i'm talking about. How could he not realize that wasn't going to work lol?

Then you had Batista doing his thumbs down deal a few minutes later. Same thing, louder boo's.

Clueless robots, all of them.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Major rewrites to the RAW script tonight.

They probably realize they can't control this thing, so they'll probably do things to encourage it so it appears it's part of the plan. I believe that seed was planted with the worked Bryan tweet from last night.

It's amazing that ROH's Bryan Danielson has managed to hijack the WWE in 2014. This is like the smark wet dream of 2006.

[BigBiss]

They just watched there top Baby face for wrestle fucking mania get boo'd out of the building .... you danm right there is a re-write

[Guest]

Major rewrites to the RAW script tonight.

They probably realize they can't control this thing, so they'll probably do things to encourage it so it appears it's part of the plan. I believe that seed was planted with the worked Bryan tweet from last night.

It's amazing that ROH's Bryan Danielson has managed to hijack the WWE in 2014. This is like the smark wet dream of 2006.

They're going to phrase it as it's all part of the "machine" holding him down, or something along those lines.

Interesting to note this, however.....

One source noted that Vince was not changing the script because of the negative reaction to Batista and the John Cena vs. Randy Orton match, but "in spite of it."

[JayDizzle]

I could go to Vegas tonight and drop a few bones on Orton retaining at EC.

Who's with me?