Rangers & Devils Bloody Brawl Starts Game

[killgod]

Yeah, trying to protect people and have better judgements be made based on scientific data is retarded.

Dear America, stop believing you have the right to tell people how to live.

Cause NHL players don't have access to all sorts of knowledge about this? Lets pretend like the NHL does nothing for them AM I RITE?


They know, they choose, u mad.

[FirstTimer]

Does MMA need headshots to work? Nope. Ban shots to the head please, thanks.

Again MMA =/= hockey fights.

In MMA fighting is needed to win a fight. In hockey a fight is not needed to win a game.

Horrible comparison is still horrible.

[killgod]

Again MMA =/= hockey fights.

In MMA fighting is needed to win a fight. In hockey a fight is not needed to win a game.

Horrible comparison is still horrible.

Do you need to punch someone in the head to win a fight?

No.

You are a fuckin retard.

[FirstTimer]

Do you need to punch someone in the head to win a fight?

No.

You are a fuckin retard.

Ok, then why do hockey players do it?



Ban headshots in hockey fighting? K. Thnx. Bai.

Again, fighting is needed to win a fight.

Fighting not needed to win a hockey game.

[EmpireWF]

Does MMA need headshots to work? Nope. Ban shots to the head please, thanks.

lol @ that silly argument. MMA is a mix of different combat sports including boxing, muay thai and Kickboxing.

The NHL is about shooting a puck into a net.

Fighting in hockey is in no way essential to the health of the league. The only reason the league allows it is it's the only reason casual sports fans care. The NHLPA also doesn't want to sacrifice jobs of a segment of their guys.

I'm not saying anything will happen by the league barring a catastrophe, it is what it is...

[killgod]

Essential to the health of the league? It's part of the fucking game. Listen to what Janssen fucking says. It's about setting the tone, flipping momentum, energizing your team, etc, etc, etc.

They do it for the exact same reasons we've outlined time and time again, yet you clowns wanna keep trolling like we're making it up.


All you non hockey watchers who just see punches without any sort of understanding sit here and think it's violence without reason. When anyone who's taken the time to learn an oz about the sport knows it's more than that.

[killgod]

the NHL is more than just putting a puck in the net, just like the NFL is more than just running over a line.

[EmpireWF]

I don't see how if you limit fighting in hockey that teams are bereft of turning the game around.

[killgod]

I don't see how if you limit fighting in hockey that teams are bereft of turning the game around.

Nobody is saying that, but you're taking the toughness out of the sport that's very intricate to the game.

Physical intimidation is why my team, San Jose, fucking blows in the postseason. So perhaps I'm on the wrong side of the fence?

Physical players are what keeps things in check on the ice. If you run a player, you're going to have to answer for it. You take away the ability to physically retaliate, and it's going to be more dangerous. The only retaliation, physically, it's going to be more high flying hits, perhaps into boards, which is the most dangerous part of hockey...and where all the concussions are currently coming from.

Take away fighting, concussions will rise. I guarantee it.

Do we really want hockey players given the right to take anyone out without any fear of retaliation? I sure as fuck don't. That'll be way more dangerous.

[Ravin]

This explains it all to me. Around the Horn and PTI talked about the Rangers/Devils, and of course, it was with a bunch of guys who know little to nothing about hockey. Hell the only time anything gets into PTI about hockey is either this stuff, or when it is one of their "Happy trails" things. You don't see them talking about the big game between Team A and Team B like they do every night for every other sport.

What did TSN have, well on Off The Record, they had Rob Ray & Lyndon Byers, two tough guys, two fighters, talking about how this was needed, and why this happened, and how the Rangers couldn't just allow the Devils to put out their 4th line in their building on a night where they could clinch a playoff spot.

Now as has been the case in every thread, it is the typical PTI guys coming in and telling the hockey people how it should be.

And since we want to bring up football

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Why is that type of block allowed? That could do huge amounts of damage, and it is way over the top in terms of what is actually needed. The guy didn't need to be laid the fuck out. I'm sure that is not how they learned to block, and one could even say, that isn't a block at all. And don't give me this "it is needed to win because he is stopping a guy from getting to the guy with the ball" shit, because that could have easily been done if the guy just got in front of him. Didn't need to be laid out.

[EmpireWF]

Nobody is saying that, but you're taking the toughness out of the sport that's very intricate to the game.

Physical intimidation is why my team, San Jose, fucking blows in the postseason. So perhaps I'm on the wrong side of the fence?

Physical players are what keeps things in check on the ice. If you run a player, you're going to have to answer for it. You take away the ability to physically retaliate, and it's going to be more dangerous. The only retaliation, physically, it's going to be more high flying hits, perhaps into boards, which is the most dangerous part of hockey...and where all the concussions are currently coming from.

Take away fighting, concussions will rise. I guarantee it.

Do we really want hockey players given the right to take anyone out without any fear of retaliation? I sure as fuck don't. That'll be way more dangerous.

Interesting points

[wr50l]

lol @ that silly argument. MMA is a mix of different combat sports including boxing, muay thai and Kickboxing.

The NHL is about shooting a puck into a net.

Fighting in hockey is in no way essential to the health of the league. The only reason the league allows it is it's the only reason casual sports fans care. The NHLPA also doesn't want to sacrifice jobs of a segment of their guys.

I'm not saying anything will happen by the league barring a catastrophe, it is what it is...

LOL, MMA fan senses where this is going and goes on auto defence. Sorry but if you're going to cry about hockey players fighting because of long term health then you'll have to stop watching MMA. Both athletes have the same brain and skull structure.

Also FT, Stanley Cup isn't necessary for winning games, get rid of it.

[EmpireWF]

Sorry but if you're going to cry about hockey players fighting because of long term health then you'll have to stop watching MMA. Both athletes have the same brain and skull structure.

Also FT, Stanley Cup isn't necessary for winning games, get rid of it.

I was saying the NHL doesn't need fighting and put their players at risk for long term problems.

Obviously, a combat sport is fighting.

[1ke]

Im callin it right now, Daniel Sedin is concussed after Keith just elbowed him in the head.

Pretty sure there will be a fight in this game tonight.

 

And ill watch it happily.

[wr50l]

I was saying the NHL doesn't need fighting and put their players at risk for long term problems.

Obviously, a combat sport is fighting.

Recycled argument is morally weak. You have absolutely no basis whatsoever to even consider banning fighting in hockey whilst taking an interest in MMA. It's blatant hypocrisy.