UPDATE: UFC 151 Canceled, Jon Jones vs Vitor Belfort added to UFC 152

[Warner2BruceTD]

Jones is kinda gay for not taking a fight that he will win easily and will do good business, but hasn't he fought last second fill ins several times already?

This is on Zuffa. Not Jones, and not a fucking trainer.

I say blame Avengers again, or a random NBA Playoff game. Or the TDK shooting. Blame, blame, blame.

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Fedor turned down Vitor when the Barnett fight fell through also

[svetz17]

UFC trying to server two masters.

You are either in the TV business, or the PPV business.

UFC tries to be in the cable/network/PPV business.

UFC has the deepest roster in their history, yet can't piece together more than one or two shows that people care about. If you have read my rants the last three years, you'd have seen this day coming. Too many shows, watered down, & overexposed. We have gotten to the point that a key injury like Hendo can take down an entire show. Think about that.

If they didn't have a million shows & four masters (PPV, FOX, Fuel, FX) to serve, this would not happen. Now the Jones title defense is moved to Toronto, where they had a weak main event (flyweight championship). It's a good show now. Had they not had two shows booked in the first place, 151/152 would have been one good show to begin with instead of two weaker ones.

The FOX deal what it is, can't turn back. The solution is less PPV. Instead of 13 or 14 or whatever they do, cut it to 8. The shows will be better quality, and will do better numbers. You won't have Frankie Edgar or Mighty Mouse main eventing and doing 150,000 buys, so you can match your total buys for the year even with less shows. Improves depth, curtail oversaturation.

Dana is a delusional fool. No matter what he says, MMA is not baseball or basketball and it can NOT be on every day. Everything has a breaking point, and even those sports would not run daily if the nature of the sport did not insist upon it. He can blame Greg Jackson all he wants, but this day was coming, and blaming Jackson is like blaming The Avengers because your card sucked and nobody cared. It's deflecting the real issue.

I think if they were to scrap Fuel and have 1 FX card 2 weeks before a Fox card or PPV this would work perfect. But still Jones is a fool for turning this down, his fanbase is destroyed. I may be done with Jones ppvs... after the New 151.

[svetz17]

Blaming Jackson & Jones is deflecting the real issue.

If they weren't running a thousand shows per year (most of which nobody gives a fuck about), they wouldn't be in a position where they are forced to offer a middleweight a light heavy title shot.

Last month they rushed Ebersole back in the cage on like two weeks notice, and he looked like shit and they killed a contender.

TOO. MANY. SHOWS.

NO. DEPTH.

I agree but Jones needs some blame. Dana and Lorenzo have to lower the shows.

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Machida also turned it down for 151 and said 152, Jones accepted

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Putting it on the fighter to 'save' a bad ppv seems silly

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Jones v machida sep 22

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No Curran/Pitbull and now no Jones/Hendo?

What a bust.

[svetz17]

Putting it on the fighter to 'save' a bad ppv seems silly

Agreed but, at the same time- Jones should have taken the fight. I don't see anyway Sonnen beats him. Sonnen had no camp, and he is probably still small so Jones would crush him. He needs to man up and take it.

[svetz17]

No Curran/Pitbull and now no Jones/Hendo?

What a bust.

fuck mma... this is why we need a Pride Grand Prix type of event...

[Warner2BruceTD]

Putting it on the fighter to 'save' a bad ppv seems silly

makes no sense.

If this was 2007, there would have been a half dozen viable replacements, and Jones would have agreed to fight one of them.

I think Jones should have taken the fight, but he's hardly the first guy to say no to a last minute change. I can see where he is coming from, too.

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How is it manning up to take a fight you won't lose?

He has a fight against a real LHW contender the next show now, saving a crappy card for a company to make a quick buck isn't his concern

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Why do you keep blaming mma?

[Warner2BruceTD]

Agreed but, at the same time- Jones should have taken the fight. I don't see anyway Sonnen beats him. Sonnen had no camp, and he is probably still small so Jones would crush him. He needs to man up and take it.

Sonnen has nothing to lose. He's smaller and just lost.

Jones has nothing to gain.

I can see where Jones would not want it. Plus, the fight will be there later and they will have more than 8 days to hype it. If Jones loses to Karate Man, they will do Jones/Sonnen with far more hype. If Jones wins and Sonnen gets a 205 win, they will do a title fight with far more hype.

People are mad at Jones, but this is on Zuffa and their terrible business model.

[svetz17]

He needs to save the card Rob, real mma fighters mostly take fights, this shit is sad. Yeah guys have turned down fights but, sonnen is no threat, its money in the bank and an easy title fight, why not.