Time to LOL at the UFC again?

[Steel Mamba]

He was twice the size of Randy and still got thrown around at one point. I don't want to take anything away from Brock, he's an amazing athlete and was a dangerous opponent for anyone. Problem is this isn't 1999's MMA where you can go in with once discipline and succeed. The sport is too involved and too diverse now for guys like Brock to just jump in the way he did. Really they robbed Brock of what could have been a great career. Who knows, he might still be in the UFC had he been given the time to properly train and work his way up the ladder instead of being thrown in the deep end. Despite being able to stay afloat for a bit, he wasn't ready. No one would have been in that situation. So IMO over the long-run he didn't really prove to be UFC caliber, not by today's standards.

[Steel Mamba]

The guy did fucking backflips anytime someone put their hands on him, that's not the mark of someone who has cemented their selves as a prototypical UFC caliber fighter.

[Liquidrob]

LOL worthy again, you're really stretching now

Hey, Royce Gracie inst UFC caliber by today's standards, Royce wasn't a legit fighter, what are you even talking about?

side note: you reading my old threads on Brock to get some info?

[Steel Mamba]

LOL worthy again, you're really stretching now

Hey, Royce Gracie inst UFC caliber by today's standards, Royce wasn't a legit fighter, what are you even talking about?

side note: you reading my old threads on Brock to get some info?

Who the hell said that and why are you comparing Brock to Royce Gracie.

[Liquidrob]

Because I like to say silly things that don't really mean anything to try and make a point

[EmpireWF]

Really they robbed Brock of what could have been a great career. Who knows, he might still be in the UFC had he been given the time to properly train and work his way up the ladder instead of being thrown in the deep end.

Brock was not gonna fight the Hardonk's of the world. He went to the UFC to fight quality guys and if he couldn't handle it, so be it. He did well for a guy with two years of training who didn't like to get hit in the face.

[Cornelius]

This won't happen simply because someone will get injured and the UFC will cancel the event. Mark it down.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Lesnar went 4-3 in the UFC against nothing but top comp (aside from Herring if you want to nit pick). To say he wasn't "UFC caliber" is absurd. He came into the UFC during a down period for heavyweights, and could not longer hang once the division improved, not to mention post illness when half of his guts were removed.

He was the best heavyweight in the UFC until Cain, JDS, and Overeem showed up. If he wasn't UFC caliber, than neither was anybody else during that period. He wouldn't beat the top guys, but he could probably walk into the UFC tomorrow and be a legitimate favorite over half the division based on size/wrestling alone.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Go back to when the Jones vs Sonnen matchup was first announced. Dana answered a ton of questions regarding whether or not Chael deserved it in the first place. His answer was along the lines of no, but people want to see it and no one else stepped up. So what you're saying has not been the case at all.

huh? Didn't Vitor Belfort just get a title shot in a division he doesn't even fight in?

And what's Dana's excuse for making Chael/Jones this time? He can't say nobody is stepping up, because it's not a week's notice this time.

Dana is full of shit as usual, he said Chael would have to get some 205 wins, but of course the only reason he said that was because he had a fight lined up for Jones already at the time. But now Dana is mad at Hendo, plus he is taking advantage of the contraversy caused when Jones "turned down" the fight last time.

(I put "turned down" in quotes, because like I said at the time, i'm not convinced this whole Jones/Dana/Chael thing was not a well orchestrated work from the start, once Dana knew Hendo was out. Talk Jones into being the fall guy for 151, gift wrap him an easy win like Belfort, then make the big $$$ Chael fight down the line later with the added benefit of the shitstorm from 151 causing heat. And look what happened?? LOL. Don't put something like that past Dana or Chael.)

[Warner2BruceTD]

Also, the GSP/Condit winner is likely facing Diaz, who wait for it...wait for it....is coming off of a loss.

[Warner2BruceTD]

So this year we've had GSP demand Diaz get an instant rematch against Condit, Ben Henderson avoid facing Anthony Pettis, Anderson Silva refuse to face Chris Weidman while angling for a catchweigh against GSP, Jon Jones choose to face a middleweight with no wins at 205Ibs in the UFC, only Nevada stopping JDS from presuading Zuffa to give Overeem a title shot before Velasquez and Renan Barao sit on the sidelines waiting for Dominick Cruz.

What happened to the no-nonsense Zuffa that had learnt from boxing how letting champions dictate matchmaking was bad for business in the long term? And also what happened to the Zuffa that tried to abide by its stipulations?

You can put your head in the sand but the fact is that the inmates have taken over the asylum. The biggest stars can see the numbers and know that the UFC needs them to pull the big money and so have started to flex their muscles. And what is feeding it is the obvious desperatio and short-term thinking from Zuffa. This is a company that just two years ago felt strong enough to consign the biggest tv draw in the sport's history to fourth-tier matches and fire him after one loss, and rather than protecting Brock Lesnar booked him in two terrible stylistic matchups. And yet now in the first year of their game-changing tv deal they can't pull a viable pair of coaches out of their ass without overturning all their matchmaking principles? Its pathetic!

[EmpireWF]

Also, the GSP/Condit winner is likely facing Diaz, who wait for it...wait for it....is coming off of a loss.

Or...GSP/Silva and Condit/Diaz 2.

Unless Cesar is right and it's Silva/Diaz with GSP/Hendricks or Kampmann.

[EmpireWF]

Btw, TUF: Jones/Sonnen will air on Tuesday nights starting next year.

[The Buddha]

Btw, TUF: Jones/Sonnen will air on Tuesday nights starting next year.

That's probably the best move they coulda made, put it in front of Sons of Anarchy and I think numbers will go up.

[Steel Mamba]

You guys are right gsp vs nick is a terrible fight as well, I'm definitely not looking forward to that and Nick isn't a true contender in that division. He hasn't done enough in his career to warrant a title fight.