Disallowed goal at end of Hawks-Red Wings game

[The Buddha]

I dont think it should have been called at all. That stage of the game on a play that doesnt mean anything to the puck just let it go. Saad shouldnt of been penalized, but IMO it shouldnt of been called period.

[FirstTimer]

Quite regularly you see that call throughout the regular season to put both guys in the box. That is roughing for sure.

Yes other situations could also be constituted as roughing and wasn't called, but that's sports. How is that any difference from holding in the NFL when it happens all the time, but is called only some of the time. Refs pick their spots with subjective penalties, it is what it is. He just happened to pick a spot right before a goal, terrible luck.

I don't buy into the controversy behind the disallowed goal at all though. Once the penalty was decided, everything that followed was by the rulebook. Penalty was decided, player touched the puck, whistle blows. If that pass to Hjalmarsson misses or if he simply doesn't score, I don't think anyone is criticizing the call to go 4 on 4.

I would be because it should be 5 on 4.

[killgod]

I personally believe the NHL directs it's officials to do certain things near the end of games.

Home team down a goal, you can bet your ass the visitors are going to the box at least once when there's less than 5 minutes to go. Things like that. In a 1-1 game, with 2 to go, ref sees an opportunity to open up the game for a dramatic finish and took it. But that might be a bit of tin foil hat, all depends on if you believe sports are influenced or not.

[Senser81]

How is that any difference from holding in the NFL when it happens all the time, but is called only some of the time. Refs pick their spots with subjective penalties, it is what it is. He just happened to pick a spot right before a goal, terrible luck.

You aren't getting it. It has very little to do with terrible luck. The spot he picked to make the call was with under two minutes remaining of the 7th game of the series. So he didn't make the same call in the previous 400:13 minutes of the series, and chose that moment to decide now would be a good time to call off-setting roughing penalties??! Furthermore, the off-setting penalties was a terrible "subjective" call at face value?

It would be like Hideo Nomo pitching games 1 and 4 of the World Series, then he's pitching game 7 and in the bottom of the ninth Nomo strikes out the last batter to end the game...but the ump decides at that moment he doesn't really think Nomo's pitching windup is one fluid motion so the ump calls a balk.

I don't buy into the controversy behind the disallowed goal at all though. Once the penalty was decided, everything that followed was by the rulebook. Penalty was decided, player touched the puck, whistle blows. If that pass to Hjalmarsson misses or if he simply doesn't score, I don't think anyone is criticizing the call to go 4 on 4.

Again...worst sports forum on VSN....I cannot even respond to this...

[jms493]

Again...worst sports forum on VSN....I cannot even respond to this...

thats not really saying much now is it?

[killgod]

Since your intent is clear, I got no further comment

/inb4 bait

[Cornelius]

Hey lets start a new thread when our team wins and goes on to the next round. I can't wait to hear the crying when LA beats the Hawks down. I thought Chicago fans were bitches before. Little did I know that winning a Stanley Cup would bring on more bitchiness.

[Senser81]

Since your intent is clear, I got no further comment

/inb4 bait

Your intent is clear, too. Lets play semantics instead of actually discussing the issue.

[Senser81]

Hey lets start a new thread when our team wins and goes on to the next round. I can't wait to hear the crying when LA beats the Hawks down. I thought Chicago fans were bitches before. Little did I know that winning a Stanley Cup would bring on more bitchiness.

Thanks, Isaiah.

[Cornelius]

Thanks, Isaiah.

You're welcome, Colt45.

[Cornelius]

If that was honestly what drew the penalty....God have mercy on NHL officiating.

God have mercy on it since you and every other Chicago fan starting giving a shit about hockey about 2 minutes ago.

[The Buddha]

God have mercy on it since you and every other Chicago fan starting giving a shit about hockey about 2 minutes ago.

Is that the standard line of defense? You can ask KG I've been a Hawks fan since he has known me which is quite a few year, we talk hockey quite a bit. Is there a ton of bandwagon fans now? Hell yes, but as long as they get the team exposure and can help put hockey back on the map, then fuck it whats the issue?

[FirstTimer]

God have mercy on it since you and every other Chicago fan starting giving a shit about hockey about 2 minutes ago.

BRB watched virtually every Hawks game that was televised this year.


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[Senser81]

Guess where Stephen Walkom is in this video? He's the ref standing in front of the Discover ad along the boards...you know, the guy who watches Raffy Torres leave his feet and launch himself into Marian Hossa's face and doesn't call a penalty? As Brenden Shanahan said, Walkom actually blows three penalties in this one play...charging, interference, and illegal check to the head.

But what Saad did to Quincy is much worse. Great consistency.

[FirstTimer]

Guess where Stephen Walkom is in this video? He's the ref standing in front of the Discover ad along the boards...you know, the guy who watches Raffy Torres leave his feet and launch himself into Marian Hossa's face and doesn't call a penalty? As Brenden Shanahan said, Walkom actually blows three penalties in this one play...charging, interference, and illegal check to the head.

But what Saad did to Quincy is much worse. Great consistency.

I don't know. Tough for him to call a penalty there. Hossa didn't lightly jab Torres.