2010 All-Rookie Team

[mgoblue2290]

Yeah the Best hate is unnecessary. I realize you probably just quickly googled him and checked out his weekly stats, but he's had turf toe on both feet all year. He probably will never be an every down back, but he seems to do decently well in a Felix Jones-esque role. Seeing as this isn't 1987, I'm not upset with him being in a more specialized role because the NFL is basically running back by platoon now a days. I just hope we can get a tough inside runner so they can compliment each other.

 

[Buzzman]

Javhid Best has had two turf toe injuries for 13 games now. 40% of the time when he gets the ball hes already getting tackled before he can do anything. The guy isn't great but he will be a lot more dangerous next year once those toes heal.

 

[Epidemik]

Lol wut? Best was hurt for most of the year. Not sure how not getting yards after contact is a big deal when he was breaking huge runs that didn't involve contact. That's just his playing style, doesn't mean he should be discredited for it.




U srs bro? This is a quickly made forum team of rookies, who fucking gives a shit what formation it's in?

 

[Youk]

I see the Raiders fans are starting to break after so many years of irrelevance.

Pierre-Paul > Lamarr Houston. Much more of a presence on the line. Six pass deflections compared to none? I've watched the Giants games too, and a good amount of these were key plays where the Giants needed to stop the other team.

Bitching about the defense selection? Are you kidding me? Is it really going to affect this? When it comes to All-Pro or All-Rookie, it should be in the 4-3 format. If a player is playing a position in the 3-4, why should you compare him at another position? If the guy played DE, he played DE. If he played LB, he played LB. If he played NT, he's a DT. There is no "what if". It is the guys position.

 

[Leftwich]

Larry I'm not trying to be a Jags homer but don't you think Alualu should get in instead of McCoy?

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Larry I'm not trying to be a Jags homer but don't you think Alualu should get in instead of McCoy?

No.

Alualu is, what I said he was before the draft...a good player, and a guy that will play for many years, but he isn't a stud and future All-Pro.

 

[BigHouseUSA]

Larry I'm not trying to be a Jags homer but don't you think Alualu should get in instead of McCoy?

I would put Alualu in my rookie first team, but only based on this season. I too, think McCoy will be the better player.

 

[Epidemik]

I see the Raiders fans are starting to break after so many years of irrelevance.

Pierre-Paul > Lamarr Houston. Much more of a presence on the line. Six pass deflections compared to none? I've watched the Giants games too, and a good amount of these were key plays where the Giants needed to stop the other team.

Bitching about the defense selection? Are you kidding me? Is it really going to affect this? When it comes to All-Pro or All-Rookie, it should be in the 4-3 format. If a player is playing a position in the 3-4, why should you compare him at another position? If the guy played DE, he played DE. If he played LB, he played LB. If he played NT, he's a DT. There is no "what if". It is the guys position.

Watch your tone cutie pie

 

[Youk]

Watch your tone cutie pie

 

[Aso]

I see the Raiders fans are starting to break after so many years of irrelevance.

Pierre-Paul > Lamarr Houston. Much more of a presence on the line. Six pass deflections compared to none? I've watched the Giants games too, and a good amount of these were key plays where the Giants needed to stop the other team.

Bitching about the defense selection? Are you kidding me? Is it really going to affect this? When it comes to All-Pro or All-Rookie, it should be in the 4-3 format. If a player is playing a position in the 3-4, why should you compare him at another position? If the guy played DE, he played DE. If he played LB, he played LB. If he played NT, he's a DT. There is no "what if". It is the guys position.

Lamarr Houston is an EVERY down player. He doesn't just come in, in passing downs. Guess what? He's also a very good defender vs the run. I'll take an every down player over a nickel pass rusher any day.

DE in a 3-4 is WAY different than a DE in a 4-3 and so on. Not the same position at all. They have entirely different responsibilities. And half the league plays a 3-4 defense so I'm not sure why it should be in a 4-3 format.

 

[Aso]

Javhid Best has had two turf toe injuries for 13 games now. 40% of the time when he gets the ball hes already getting tackled before he can do anything. The guy isn't great but he will be a lot more dangerous next year once those toes heal.

Ok, so Jahvid Best should be in over Ryan Mathews based off of what?

 

[Youk]

DE in a 3-4 is WAY different than a DE in a 4-3 and so on. Not the same position at all. They have entirely different responsibilities. And half the league plays a 3-4 defense so I'm not sure why it should be in a 4-3 format.

It's still a Defensive End. Who are you going to compare the 3-4 DE to? Other DE's. What position will the 3-4 DE play in a Pro Bowl? DE. Who are you going to compare the 4-3 DE to? Other DE's. What position will the 4-3 DE play in a Pro Bowl? DE.

Go enjoy being committed to mediocrity.

 

[Aso]

It's still a Defensive End. Who are you going to compare the 3-4 DE to? Other DE's. What position will the 3-4 DE play in a Pro Bowl? DE. Who are you going to compare the 4-3 DE to? Other DE's. What position will the 4-3 DE play in a Pro Bowl? DE.

Go enjoy being committed to mediocrity.

lol at it's still defensive end. That's just a way to label the position for the average fan. How about we compare a 4 technique to a 4 technique. Compare a 5 technique to a 5 technique, so on and so forth. It's not the same position. A 0 technique, 1 technique, 3 technique, are all entirely different positions with entirely different responsibilities despite you calling it a defensive tackle.

 

[Youk]

lol at it's still defensive end. That's just a way to label the position for the average fan. How about we compare a 4 technique to a 4 technique. Compare a 5 technique to a 5 technique, so on and so forth. It's not the same position. A 0 technique, 1 technique, 3 technique, are all entirely different positions with entirely different responsibilities despite you calling it a defensive tackle.

lol @ you just being upset that Larry didn't pick your man at DE for first team.

I think I know my football, but when it comes to lists like this, and like the Pro Bowl, a DE is a DE is a DE. It may not be true when it comes to picking the right player for the scheme, but when it comes to lists like this, a DE is a DE.

 

[Buzzman]

Ok, so Jahvid Best should be in over Ryan Mathews based off of what?

Based on the fact Mathews only had 50 more rushing yards but 33 less receptions, 350 less receving yards, and 2 less TDs.

 

[Aso]

lol @ you just being upset that Larry didn't pick your man at DE for first team.

I think I know my football, but when it comes to lists like this, and like the Pro Bowl, a DE is a DE is a DE. It may not be true when it comes to picking the right player for the scheme, but when it comes to lists like this, a DE is a DE.

This is a forum so I thought I'd share my thoughts... I'm not mad about his list.

Then lists like these are dumb.

 

[Aso]

Based on the fact Mathews only had 50 more rushing yards but 33 less receptions, 350 less receving yards, and 2 less TDs.

He definitely has the edge in receiving, I'll give him that.

 

[Youk]

This is a forum so I thought I'd share my thoughts... I'm not mad about his list.

Then lists like these are dumb.

And I'm not sharing my thoughts?

The only difference is that your thoughts consist of "all of the Raiders rookies should be on here, what the fuck".

 

[Aso]

And I'm not sharing my thoughts?

The only difference is that your thoughts consist of "all of the Raiders rookies should be on here, what the fuck".

Believe it or not Houston and McClain are playing pretty well. Raiders draft class last year was their best in a long time. My thoughts also did consist of other players as well... even players from other teams in the AFC West like Tony Moeaki and Ryan Mathews. Good try at pulling the homer card on me, but it's not working.

 

[Youk]

Believe it or not Houston and McClain are playing pretty well. My thoughts also did consist of other players as well... even players from other teams in the AFC West like Tony Moeaki and Ryan Mathews. Good try at pulling the homer card on me, but it's not working.

EDIT: I gotta bounce for awhile, so I'm not gonna keep going. A tip of the hat for letting me get my loud, obnoxious arguments out of the way.