40 years from now...

[FirstTimer]

There's no discussion because he can't grasp simple concepts. America loses.

We're so 2000 and late.

:smh:

 

[Pitty]

Do you think they'll be remembered in 40 years the way people remember bands like the Beatles?

Because you seem to think that since Kanye West is such a hit maker that he will. By that same logic you must say that the BEP will as well.

My point is that neither cross enough genres that they will be, because as it's been said ad nauseum, people outside of the hip hop realm don't really give a shit about Kanye or the BEP. I sure hell know I don't.

BEP aren't Hip Hop, lol. They're as much pop as Britney Spears is.

 

[Pitty]

Sorry. I didn't mean to imply that they're hip hop.

The point remains. Come on man, you're smarter than this.

I'm smarter than what? Everyone in this thread is being overly subjective. Give me one reason to believe Kanye will be less remembered by the masses than the Ramones or the White Stripes. Both contributed to the revolution of a genre, but they hardly ever merged with the true popular masses.

Bands that will probably still be relevant/listened to in 40 years.... (regardless of my opinion of them, and from my era or thereabouts)

U2
Pearl Jam
Metallica
Nirvana
The Ramones
The White Stripes
Radiohead
GnR
Beastie Boys

 

[FirstTimer]

I'm smarter than what? Everyone in this thread is being overly subjective. Give me one reason to believe Kanye will be less remembered by the masses than the Ramones or the White Stripes. Both contributed to the revolution of a genre, but they hardly ever merged with the true popular masses.

I can't speak for Heels but I would venture a guess that The Ramones will still be major influences in the punk/rock scene and while I'm not a huge TWS fan i think they will also influence music long after their careers are done. I just can't see Kanye's music being all that influential down the road.

 

[Pitty]

There is no way on fucking Earth that Kanye will ever be remembered more in the history of music than the Ramones.

Just fucking stop now. I want to punch you in the face right now.

I already said a few pages back that the White Stripes was a stretch.

But will he be remembered less? The youth doesn't care about the Ramones the same way you do, they do care about Kanye West.

 

[FirstTimer]

But will he be remembered less? .

Yes.

 

[Pitty]

I can't speak for Heels but I would venture a guess that The Ramones will still be major influences in the punk/rock scene and while I'm not a huge TWS fan i think they will also influence music long after their careers are done. I just can't see Kanye's music being all that influential down the road.

This is all I'm saying. Heels has been asserting that Kanye won't maintain over the years because he can't break the Hip Hop barrier. The Ramones fall into the exact same category, sucks being the most popular underground band ever, but they are still that.

 

[Anthony]

Hip hop is the culture. Rap is the music genre. Jus' saying, wiggers.

 

[Pitty]

The Ramones are the reason about 90% of the punk/indie genre exists. Can Kanye say the same thing?

It still remains one genre. The argument can easily be made for the influence Kanye exerts on the Hip Hop world. He has dictated almost every style of popular Hip Hop over the past decade.

 

[Houston]

Also Houston stop being a fucking bitch and actually contribute for once instead of sitting on the sidelines like a fucking moron.

lol, I have more post in this thread then you do.

Pitty does bring up a good point about The Ramones though. Obviously Kanye is a lot bigger then they were when they first started.

Kanye is seen as one of the best in hip hop.
The Ramones are seen as one of the best in punk rock.


If hip hop is still around, what makes you think people won't remember Kanye like they remember The Ramones?

 

[Anthony]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiJK5cHjYzI[/ame]

I AM LAUGHING AT YOU GENE.

 

[FirstTimer]

This is all I'm saying. Heels has been asserting that Kanye won't maintain over the years because he can't break the Hip Hop barrier. The Ramones fall into the exact same category, sucks being the most popular underground band ever, but they are still that.

:jonesy:

The Ramones are the reason about 90% of the punk/indie genre exists. Can Kanye say the same thing?

This


I just don't see Kanye's music as all that influential, even now, and especially not in the future.

 

[Pitty]

This dude just called the Ramones an underground band.

I'm out.

You're misunderstanding the usage. They were never mainstream heels, Punk can't be a mainstream genre. They never had a gold album, never had a top 50 hit, they weren't in the mainstream, thus they are underground, you can still be extremely popular and be part of the underground.

 

[Anthony]

KANYE SAMPLES, HE ISN'T ORIGINAL, PEOPLE THAT KNOW MUSIC SEE THAT. THE RAMONES DIDN'T. HEY HO, LET'S GO!.

 

[Anthony]

HOUSTON I CAN BUY YOU, WITH CAPS LOCK AND ALL.

 

[Anthony]

Nirvana #5? That list sucks.

 

[Anthony]

Korn #48? Holy fuck that list sucks.

 

[Pitty]

YOU DON'T DISRESPECT JOEY LIKE THAT!

I never said underground strips artistic merit or influence, you're still misunderstanding this. IT'S NOT A NEGATIVE TERM, it simply means they resided outside the mainstream, how can you deny that?

 

[Anthony]

That list sucks sooo much. But, The Ramones > Kanye still stands.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Kanye's not even the best producer turned rapper.

:kanye: