A Song of Ice and Fire (Game of Thrones Books Thread)

[mgoblue2290]

A Storm of Swords

 

FUCK THE RAINS OF CASTAMERE
FUCK THE RED WEDDING
FUCK HOUSES FREY AND LANNISTER

I mean sure kill Catelyn, hell even Edmure but i had high hopes for Robb.

Umm books shouldnt effect me like this i came home from work pissed off after reading that.

When that happens on the TV show everyone is going to lose their mind. Its going to be huge and I'm sure the show runners are going to do it perfectly. Its actually how I think the 3rd season should end. It'd be such a great final scene.

 

[SethMode]

When that happens on the TV show everyone is going to lose their mind. Its going to be huge and I'm sure the show runners are going to do it perfectly. Its actually how I think the 3rd season should end. It'd be such a great final scene.

That's my prediction too. When I read that part, I couldn't sleep afterwards and my girlfriend was all like "It's just a book, relax" because she hasn't read it. That character is probably her favorite after watching the show though, and I kind of can't wait for that part just to stick it to her.

 

[Villain]

That's my prediction too. When I read that part, I couldn't sleep afterwards and my girlfriend was all like "It's just a book, relax" because she hasn't read it. That character is probably her favorite after watching the show though, and I kind of can't wait for that part just to stick it to her.

 

And you just know that on TV they will show Grey Wind's head mounted on Robb's body outside on the battlements. That scene is going to be fucking brutal.

AFFC:

 

Lady Stoneheart is also going to freak people out.

 

[Fappin Raptor]

I can't wait until Dave watches that scene next year.

Dave's response: "This show just keeps getting worse and worse. All the characters that were worth a damn are gone."

 

[kyhadley]

I saw an interview with GRRM about the changes made in season 1 of the show and it was intriguing, so I started reading the first book to get all of the stuff I missed from only watching the show.

 

[NAHSTE]

Finished AFforC finally.

 

RIP Brienne and Pod. Gonna miss those two crazy kids. That Zombie Cat Stark is one coldhearted bitch.

RIP mah dude Maester Aemon too.

 

[kyhadley]

Finished AFforC finally.

 

RIP Brienne and Pod. Gonna miss those two crazy kids. That Zombie Cat Stark is one coldhearted bitch.

RIP mah dude Maester Aemon too.

ADWD spoiler

 

I still don't quite get how Brienne survived that.

 

[Saluki]

ADWD spoiler

 

I still don't quite get how Brienne survived that.

 

She yelled something right before they hung her, and apparently whatever it was persuaded them to let her live. They still haven't said what it was she yelled though.

I can't wait until Dave watches that scene next year.

Dave's response: "This show just keeps getting worse and worse. All the characters that were worth a damn are gone."

If he thinks that's bad, he'll be ultra pissed at season 5, my friend didn't even wanna finish the last couple chapters of the book lol.

 

[NAHSTE]

Finally finished ADwD. Odd feeling of closure.

Anyway, my thoughts ...

 

Feel a little bit underwhelmed at what all was left unresolved. The fact that Dany still hasn't started making her way to Westeros is annoying. I mean come the fuck on already.

- It was great to get a few chapters from Barristan's perspective.
- A major theme in this series seems to be "don't overreach" ... See Theon, Asha, Quentyn, Cersei, Jon, Connington, etc. A lot of ambition going on here.
- Still hate Theon but after seeing him become Reek I was rooting for him to become Theon again. Not even a treacherous turncloak bitch such as himself deserves what Ramsay Bolton did to him. The chapter where the spearwives help him and Jeyne escape was one of the most intense reads of the book. Heart was pounding as they got to a dead end and jumped over the wall.
- Did not figure out the Mance/Abel thing until a co-worker who was at the same place mentioned it to me.
- Really wondering if the Bolton host smashed Stannis's camp, or if Ramsay was just posturing in the letter
- Seeing the Watch betray Jon was rough, felt like a mixture of the Red Wedding and the Old Bear's demise at Craster's. Upon thinking about it though, it was justified by the brothers. Jon was in way too deep with affairs that did not concern the Wall, and he was jeopardizing their strength with every decision he made to appease the Wildlings. From Jon's perspective his motives were pure, but he was no longer thinking with the best interests of the Watch at heart. I suspect he's not dead, as Ghost and Melisandre will surely have his back.
- As a member of the "Ralph Lauren Jeans" camp, I subscribe to mgo's theory about Jon being Azor Ahai.

 

[whuteva]

As did I. You beat me by a few hours.

 

HO-LEE SHIT at the last 4-5 chapters and the prologue.

- Arya killing the Tickler was so hardcore.

-I knew Tyrion was probably gonna escape, but offing his pops on the way out? Cold blooded. :shotsfired:

-Lord Commander Jon Snow. Nice. Hilarious that heading north and taking the black was actually the best move he ever made, considering what happened to all his family loved ones who went south. And call me corny, but a smile came to my face when Ghost came back.

-The whole Lysa/Sansa/Littlefinger moon door chapter was incredibly done all the way until the end.

Yo, that Arya thing was probably the most hardcore shit i've seen from a 9 yo chick in forever!!

 

[whuteva]

Damnnn

 

I can't believe they did Eddard like that

Yeah, that was some pure Queen of Hearts from Alice in Wonderland isht there!!

 

[whuteva]

When that happens on the TV show everyone is going to lose their mind. Its going to be huge and I'm sure the show runners are going to do it perfectly. Its actually how I think the 3rd season should end. It'd be such a great final scene.

Hopefully, Martin writes that episode same as he did the Blackwater episode for season 2.

 

[whuteva]

ADWD spoiler

 

I still don't quite get how Brienne survived that.

 

she shouts something out at the end right after Pod gets got. Whatever it was, it sure had a serious impact on Stoneheart. or hell, maybe Thoros revived her same as he did Dondarion and Cat Stark.

 

[NAHSTE]

ADWD spoiler

 

I still don't quite get how Brienne survived that.

Yeah, when I first read it I guessed that ...

 

the word she shouted was either "Jaime!" or "Sapphires", meaning that Jaime was going to appear out of nowhere and ride down the outlaws, thus saving her ... but after reading the next book I think it was probably just "WAIT!" ... then she said "I'll do it."

It's pretty clear she is luring Jaime to his death when she reunites with him, right?

 

[Fappin Raptor]

Finally finished ADwD. Odd feeling of closure.

Anyway, my thoughts ...

 

Feel a little bit underwhelmed at what all was left unresolved. The fact that Dany still hasn't started making her way to Westeros is annoying. I mean come the fuck on already.

- It was great to get a few chapters from Barristan's perspective.
- A major theme in this series seems to be "don't overreach" ... See Theon, Asha, Quentyn, Cersei, Jon, Connington, etc. A lot of ambition going on here.
- Still hate Theon but after seeing him become Reek I was rooting for him to become Theon again. Not even a treacherous turncloak bitch such as himself deserves what Ramsay Bolton did to him. The chapter where the spearwives help him and Jeyne escape was one of the most intense reads of the book. Heart was pounding as they got to a dead end and jumped over the wall.
- Did not figure out the Mance/Abel thing until a co-worker who was at the same place mentioned it to me.
- Really wondering if the Bolton host smashed Stannis's camp, or if Ramsay was just posturing
- Seeing the Watch betray Jon was rough, felt like a mixture of the Red Wedding and the Old Bear's demise at Craster's. Upon thinking about it though, it was justified by the brothers. Jon was in way too deep with affairs that did not concern the Wall, and he was jeopardizing their strength with every decision he made to appease the Wildlings. From Jon's perspective his motives were pure, but he was no longer thinking with the best interests of the Watch at heart. I suspect he's not dead, as Ghost and Melisandre will surely have his back.
- As a member of the "Ralph Lauren Jeans" camp, I subscribe to mgo's theory about Jon being Azor Ahai.

My thoughts on Jon:

 

I think that Jon Snow's body will be killed, but I believe he'll either warg into Ghost or possibly Stannis (I think mgo might have suggested this to me).

 

[SethMode]

Yeah, when I first read it I guessed that ...

 

the word she shouted was either "Jaime!" or "Sapphires", meaning that Jaime was going to appear out of nowhere and rode down the outlaws, thus saving her ... but after reading I think it was probably just "WAIT!" ... then she said "I'll do it."

It's pretty clear she is luring Jaime to his death when she reunites with him, right?

 

Definitely was the impression that I got. If he (Martin) kills off Jaime I'm going to be pissed. I think he might be my favorite character at this point, or at least in the running. Crows was a great Jaime book...I was disappointed that there was so little of him in Dragons.

My issue with Dragons is similar to yours: I don't feel like it really progressed anything all that much. Crows is hated for that reason, but I think it's more because the characters people wanted to hear about after Swords weren't there for the most part. A TON of shit happened in Crows, and my issue with Dragons is that even after "the streams connected" or whatever weirdo fat fantasy writer way Martin explained the rational behind the book, it felt like nothing went anywhere. The last 2 books are either going to be like 5000 pages a piece, or book 6 is going to just be wrapping up most loose ends because it feels like the overall narrative at SOME point has to be the battle between the Red Priests and the Ice People (not about to try to spell the one God's name).

Am I the only one that thinks that?

 

[whuteva]

 

Definitely was the impression that I got. If he kills of Jaime I'm going to be pissed. I think he might be my favorite character at this point, or at least in the running. Crows was a great Jaime book...I was disappointed that there was so little of him in Dragons.

My issue with Dragons is similar to yours: I don't feel like it really progressed anything all that much. Crows is hated for that reason, but I think it's more because the characters people wanted to hear about after Swords weren't there for the most part. A TON of shit happened in Crows, and my issue with Dragons is that even after "the streams connected" or whatever weirdo fat fantasy writer way Martin explained the rational behind the book, it felt like nothing went anywhere. The last 2 books are either going to be like 5000 pages a piece, or book 6 is going to just be wrapping up most loose ends because it feels like the overall narrative at SOME point has to be the battle between the Red Priests and the Ice People (not about to try to spell the one God's name).

Am I the only one that thinks that?

 

 

I think Crows and Dragons advanced the story about equally, which, for most, wasn't enough. Crows introduced a bunch of characters that were only referenced previously and left out some fan faves from earlier books. Dragons brought them back, but the stories only got rolling in the last few chapters (Dany riding off with Drogon, The Iron Islanders prepping for attach, Connington and Aegon prepping to attach, the shit going on in the North) just whet peeps appetite for what should've been in this book. Martin know's how to build suspense.

I saw somewhere that Martin says much of what was led up to in ADWD will be cleared up early in the next book. I'm thinking these last 2 books are gonna be Encyclopedi Brittanica long.

 

[SethMode]

 

 

I think Crows and Dragons advanced the story about equally, which, for most, wasn't enough. Crows introduced a bunch of characters that were only referenced previously and left out some fan faves from earlier books. Dragons brought them back, but the stories only got rolling in the last few chapters (Dany riding off with Drogon, The Iron Islanders prepping for attach, Connington and Aegon prepping to attach, the shit going on in the North) just whet peeps appetite for what should've been in this book. Martin know's how to build suspense.

I saw somewhere that Martin says much of what was led up to in ADWD will be cleared up early in the next book. I'm thinking these last 2 books are gonna be Encyclopedi Brittanica long.

Provided the fat bastard finishes them before he keels over after spanking it to one of the sex scenes he writes.

 

[NAHSTE]

Provided the fat bastard finishes them before he keels over after spanking it to one of the sex scenes he writes.

Do you think he wonders to himself as he is writing those, "Hmmm what will it be this time? Should I go with the 'vagina as a swamp' metaphor, or the 'vagina as a marshland'?"

 

[SethMode]

Do you think he wonders to himself as he is writing those, "Hmmm what will it be this time? Should I go with the 'vagina as a swamp' metaphor, or the 'vagina as a marshland'?"

With how often the dewy-ness of the female sex organ is mentioned, I would imagine he has some sort of flow chart set up. "If the following character is a female from the Iron Islands her vagina will be soaked like the beaches in high tide."