Analyst: Madden 12 to drop 50% in sales if lockout stands

[killgod]

Lockout - The Hollywood Reporter


So would I be crazy to assume EA isn't going to push this game hard with the risk of less interest towards their product this year?


EA's all about money, so I think this risk could give good reason for the game to be shittier than usual.

 

[f16harm]

It should drop 50% regardless.....because the franchise fucking sucks now!

 

[SHOGUN]

Maybe this means they'll give more attention to the NCAA series.

 

[dave]

I just found out yesterday when perusing OS forums that Adembroski is now an assistant designer for Madden 12.
I really don't cruise the Madden forums much anymore, given that it's, by far, the worst pro sports video game of the bunch.
I wish Adem well, but trying to fix the current incarnation of Madden is like painting over a rickety old house every year. Yeah, the paint's new, but the house still sucks.

It's time to tear down the house.

 

[j.hen]

I just found out yesterday when perusing OS forums that Adembroski is now an assistant designer for Madden 12.
I really don't cruise the Madden forums much anymore, given that it's, by far, the worst pro sports video game of the bunch.
I wish Adem well, but trying to fix the current incarnation of Madden is like painting over a rickety old house every year. Yeah, the paint's new, but the house still sucks.

It's time to tear down the house.

Oh so now you're a philosophizer

 

[CCBrink]

No shit the sales will drop. I thought about that as soon as the lockout was announced.

I highly doubt Tiburon will "slack off" on the game this year just because of the lockout.

 

[killgod]

I'm not saying the dev's won't try. I'm saying that EA won't be as willing to pump funds into this year's development if only 3 Million people end up buying the product in August.

Doesn't seem to be a very good ROI, when they could instead give another 10 --> 11 weak ass upgrade and then actually put some fuckin funds into making 13 special when the league is no longer focused on the CBA.

 

[killgod]

I'm not saying the dev's won't try. I'm saying that EA won't be as willing to pump funds into this year's development if only 3 Million people end up buying the product in August.

Doesn't seem to be a very good ROI, when they could instead give another 10 --> 11 weak ass upgrade and then actually put some fuckin funds into making 13 special when the league is no longer focused on the CBA.

 

[jms493]

last year was the first year I didn't buy it and I didn't miss it. NCAA Online Dynasty is a far better gaming experience and I don't plan on buying Madden ever again until it totally changed.

The game has gone from a hardcore sports game to a Corporate commercial.

 

[tigstah]

It should drop 50% regardless.....because the franchise fucking sucks now!

and its been sucking for a few years now......

I just found out yesterday when perusing OS forums that Adembroski is now an assistant designer for Madden 12.
I really don't cruise the Madden forums much anymore, given that it's, by far, the worst pro sports video game of the bunch.
I wish Adem well, but trying to fix the current incarnation of Madden is like painting over a rickety old house every year. Yeah, the paint's new, but the house still sucks.

It's time to tear down the house.

yup, time to tear that mutha down, redesign and start over. asap.

 

[CCBrink]

I'm not exactly sure how funding works, but I thought that the publishers gave the developers a set budget and then they work with that.

 

[killgod]

I highly doubt the developers do any spending themselves.

Heck, I'm sure the developers don't get much say in half of what goes into the game, ala OTP in Madden 11. That was a developer decision if i recall Ian correctly.

 

[dave]

Oh so now you're a philosophizer

I thought my post was more architect than philosopher.

 

[hackett]

NCAA will be my only purchase for football this year. Unless, there is some miracle that occurs. Haven't played NCAA in about 3 or 4 years now, should be refreshing.

 

[Garrett67]

I just found out yesterday when perusing OS forums that Adembroski is now an assistant designer for Madden 12.
I really don't cruise the Madden forums much anymore, given that it's, by far, the worst pro sports video game of the bunch.
I wish Adem well, but trying to fix the current incarnation of Madden is like painting over a rickety old house every year. Yeah, the paint's new, but the house still sucks.

It's time to tear down the house.

So sucking cock does pay off. That is why Madden sucks, they hire people that have zero background in programming or designing games.

 

[krulmichael]

Not gonna lie, I'm looking more towards NCAA Football 12 this year to be "the football game" for me again like it has been in the past. However, if Madden could just work on the fucking Franchise portion of the game (like legit work on it, not just make it all "pretty") I would be happy even if they didn't touch anything else.

Maybe they'll include a "Lockout" feature...

 

[dave]

So sucking cock does pay off. That is why Madden sucks, they hire people that have zero background in programming or designing games.

Adem is a pretty good guy. I don't like bashing him personally.
It is a dream job, so it's understandable why he wouldn't want to piss them off in a public forum.
Sadly, I'm too stupid or stubborn to follow the same philosophy.

As for your background in programming or designing ... it's really not that necessary.
The designers simply explain their ideas to computer nerds who play them out.

 

[leaffan]

Adem is a pretty good guy. I don't like bashing him personally.
It is a dream job, so it's understandable why he wouldn't want to piss them off in a public forum.
Sadly, I'm too stupid or stubborn to follow the same philosophy.

As for your background in programming or designing ... it's really not that necessary.
The designers simply explain their ideas to computer nerds who play them out.

Ahhh yes it is. A non programmer who is a designer for a video game is a nightmare.

 

[dave]

Ahhh yes it is. A non programmer who is a designer for a video game is a nightmare.

I've been to two EA Sports community events, not sure how many you've been to, it's not that difficult - game designer tells nerd what he expects to see in the game, nerd executes the 1s and 0s.
I don't want a nerd whose never touched a football trying to build a football game - he needs some help.

 

[Survivor]

last year was the first year I didn't buy it and I didn't miss it. NCAA Online Dynasty is a far better gaming experience and I don't plan on buying Madden ever again until it totally changed.

The game has gone from a hardcore sports game to a Corporate commercial.

I feel the same way about current gen Madden with you. Year after year I would open my case expecting last-gen gameplay and last-gen franchise with current-gen graphics. What did I get? A big heap of shit. Madden 11 was the first year I haven't purchased Madden since I was in 4th grade and I am a Senior in college.

Not gonna lie, I'm looking more towards NCAA Football 12 this year to be "the football game" for me again like it has been in the past. However, if Madden could just work on the fucking Franchise portion of the game (like legit work on it, not just make it all "pretty") I would be happy even if they didn't touch anything else.

Maybe they'll include a "Lockout" feature...

...? Have you actually played a game of Madden the last few years? Simming games would suck since franchise mode hasn't changed a lick, but when you actually play the games it's even more painful. It feels like you're playing Madden and NFL Blitz's lovechild. How poetic is it that the EA sold out to appeal to the masses when during a lockout the only people who would really buy the game are the fans they screwed over. You'd think they'd have casted those casual gamers to the side after they'd lost around 20% in sales this past year (I heard that somewhere didn't I?). Maybe they will?

All I know is that when they had the choice of appealing to the devout football fan versus the casual gamer, they chose the casuals almost every time. Let's just look at Gameflow or just the "sim" gameplay... Actually you know what, I'm not even sure if I was a casual fan that I'd like the gameplay... it just sucks. If they lose 50% to the lockout and then another 20% because it sucks, think there will even be a Madden 13? I think not.

NCAA can finally get the money put into it that it deserves! YE$$$$$$$$$$$