Bad Baseball Statements

[nwfisch]

Carlos Zambrano is a top 10 pitcher in Cubs history.

Wait top 10 since 1919.

Anthony Rizzo is worth James Russell and Randy Wells.

Alfonso Soriano was a top 10 player in 2007.

 

[nwfisch]

The Cubs should bench Soriano and kill what trade value he has.

 

[Senser81]

Adam Dunn is easily one of the most underrated players in the MLB.

And if we're going to talk about underrated pitchers, Javier Vazquez is at or near the top of the list.

 

[FedEx227]

Lulz.

 

[Senser81]

Uhh...because they are both really bad defensively? Jeter is worse, but Dunn is pretty bad, too. It doesn't matter what position they play.

And basically everything Lefty34 contributed to this thread:

http://www.virtualsportsdaily.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34701

 

[Senser81]

I would have much rather you just taken the five extra minutes when I first asked you to show your work rather than what you did.

 

[NAHSTE]

The Nationals are one bad-bodied power hitting 1B away from making the playoffs.

:yao:

 

[FedEx227]

Mike Morse's 2011 BABIP doesn't matter because he wasn't a full time player in 2006.

 

[NAHSTE]

Ryan Braun deserved the NL MVP more than Matt Kemp because James Loney is worse at baseball than Prince Fielder.

 

[Rudi]

Bronson Arroyo still deserves a spot in the Reds starting rotation.

 

[nwfisch]

Carlos Zambrano leaving the Cubs rotation in 2010 didn't hurt them in any way.

Wins Above Replacement is the best stat one can use to evaluate a player.

 

[FedEx227]

Carlos Zambrano leaving the Cubs rotation in 2010 didn't hurt them in any way.

Wins Above Replacement is the best stat one can use to evaluate a player.

:shifty:

 

[NAHSTE]

I didn't realize there was one single stat that was going to be perfect ... I always used a combination of stats to provide a clear picture.

WAR is a very useful big picture metric, but nobody thinks it's the ONLY or BEST way to evaluate.

 

[FedEx227]

I wouldn't say BEST but I don't think it's exactly a bad statement. It's always about a collection of stats.

 

[nwfisch]

Carlos Zambrano wasn't a bad clubhouse guy when he was with the Cubs.

 

[nwfisch]

I didn't realize there was one single stat that was going to be perfect ... I always used a combination of stats to provide a clear picture.

WAR is a very useful big picture metric, but nobody thinks it's the ONLY or BEST way to evaluate.

This. :thumbsup:

 

[NAHSTE]

I wouldn't say BEST but I don't think it's exactly a bad statement. It's always about a collection of stats.

Yeah that was not a bad statement. Does not qualify for this thread because WAR is definitely useful.

:lesmug:

 

[FirstTimer]

WAR blows.

I remember SC this year after the Cards signed Beltran trying to spin how they mightnot miss Pujols since Beltran and Pujols had similar WAR's last season.

:yao:

WAR IMO is built on subjective metrics that ignore massive amounts of context.

I guess use it as a tool or whatever but saying it's the "best" way to evaluate players is idotic.

It drives me insane when I see people evaluating offseasons by trying to add up the WAR's of the players they lost and gained to see how they will do compared to last season.

I guess WAR is "useful" but rather than having all of it rolled into one I'd rather build a better picture off each individual stat or metric. WAR tried to tie them all together and relies WAY to heavily at times on God awful fielding metrics.

 

[nwfisch]

Yeah that was not a bad statement. Does not qualify for this thread because WAR is definitely useful.

:lesmug:

It's not to used as the only metric in evaluating a player, and as an end-all, be-all in an argument.

It's a nice metric, but what exactly is a replacement level player?

 

[FedEx227]

WAR blows.

I remember SC this year after the Cards signed Beltran trying to spin how they mightnot miss Pujols since Beltran and Pujols had similar WAR's last season.

:yao:

WAR IMO is built on subjective metrics that ignore massive amounts of context.

I guess use it as a tool or whatever but saying it's the "best" way to evaluate players is idotic.

It drives me insane when I see people evaluating offseasons by trying to add up the WAR's of the players they lost and gained to see how they will do compared to last season.

I guess WAR is "useful" but rather than having all of it rolled into one I'd rather build a better picture off each individual stat or metric. WAR tried to tie them all together and relies WAY to heavily at times on God awful fielding metrics.

Well anyone who does that is retarded. That's not how it's suppose to be used.