Batman: Arkham Asylum

[A Tasty Burgerr]

Damn hard is, well, hard

 

[Point Blank]

I'm about to try out the demo right now.

 

[godspeed]

Wasting all my time on this game on solving the damn riddles.

 

[Point Blank]

Wow this game is pretty sick. The demo has my hooked.

 

[Maynard]

i just picked up the game as a rental from blockbuster. their rentals are basically 15 days for what ends up being $9

 

[Sean]

yahoo had a article about it recently, saying it was the best Superhero game ever

i'll see if i can find it

 

[Sean]

heres one, not the one i read though, but still good

http://tech.yahoo.com/news/ap/20090826/ap_on_hi_te/us_game_review_batman_3

 

[.RoCkEtS1]

I'm going to go download the demo in a few minutes and see if this game lives up to the hype of what most people have said about it.

 

[Maynard]

it is a very good game. My only issues have to do with the controls. The fighting is all XXXXX YY XXXX
even the combos are all related to you just hitting the X button over and over. I want to execute combos by pulling off button moves and so far this has none of that. You just button mash.
they have the B button for evading, but you cant use it as a jump kick or punch. I just wish the combat had a little more depth

Everything related to grappling has been scripted to this point. The grapple points and vents are all pre scripted to force you down a linear path. There are no choices in how you take on an encounter. You follow what the game tells you to do.

I am only up to the elevator shaft looking for gordon, so maybe as i go farther this will change.


Anyone know how to get the riddler trophey that is in the room with the joker gas? Its right at the start of that room in a jail cell. I can see a ladder to climb up, but i cant get to the ladder cause of the electric door.

I saw a vent in the next room that is up high with no access. I could see anyway to get in there either.

 

[Goober]

Anyone know how to get the riddler trophey that is in the room with the joker gas? Its right at the start of that room in a jail cell. I can see a ladder to climb up, but i cant get to the ladder cause of the electric door.

I saw a vent in the next room that is up high with no access. I could see anyway to get in there either.

You will unlock different tools latter in the game in order to get those trophies.

 

[Krebs]

yeah, you get the batclaw for pulling down high grates, and a scrmabler thingy for all those fucking electric doors, i dont know how many times i walked past those bitches trying to get through them. just got the scrambler, and saved gordan. this game is great! i think im about 6 hours in

 

[godspeed]

. There are no choices in how you take on an encounter. You follow what the game tells you to do.

I actually don't have a problem with that. There is a lot of game here. If I was going around trying to figure out what missions and what to do next I'd be wasting time and lost. Games like GTA is just way too much game for me, and takes way too much time. You do have the riddler challanges that takes you off the mission which is a nice break. I'm probably in the mniroty of gamers where I don't mind a shorter game, just because I just don't have the time to sit through and play.

 

[SethMode]

it is a very good game. My only issues have to do with the controls. The fighting is all XXXXX YY XXXX
even the combos are all related to you just hitting the X button over and over. I want to execute combos by pulling off button moves and so far this has none of that. You just button mash.
they have the B button for evading, but you cant use it as a jump kick or punch. I just wish the combat had a little more depth

Everything related to grappling has been scripted to this point. The grapple points and vents are all pre scripted to force you down a linear path. There are no choices in how you take on an encounter. You follow what the game tells you to do.

I am only up to the elevator shaft looking for gordon, so maybe as i go farther this will change.

Your complaints are a little nitpicky if you ask me. The combat I guess you can get, but for me, I enjoy not having to memorize a shit ton of combos just to fight. I like the simplicity, and the bonus is that it makes for a realistic Batman experience, where you can easily take on multiple foes with no issue. The rest is a little silly. Are we really to a point where ANY linearity is bad? There are plenty of things to explore for secrets and whatever, and you're disappointed that the developers want to tell a story and thus need to keep you on some variance of a path? I'm so sick of the sandbox approach I could puke. The Call of Duty guys have it right...just like this game does: give you ways to encounter combat and your choice of how to approach them, but otherwise, keep you one a rail for the sake of the story.

I would hate if this game had you just doing whatever you wanted whenever. That's the kind of shit that kills every game Ubisoft makes right now.

 

[Maynard]

Your complaints are a little nitpicky if you ask me. The combat I guess you can get, but for me, I enjoy not having to memorize a shit ton of combos just to fight. I like the simplicity, and the bonus is that it makes for a realistic Batman experience, where you can easily take on multiple foes with no issue. The rest is a little silly. Are we really to a point where ANY linearity is bad? There are plenty of things to explore for secrets and whatever, and you're disappointed that the developers want to tell a story and thus need to keep you on some variance of a path? I'm so sick of the sandbox approach I could puke. The Call of Duty guys have it right...just like this game does: give you ways to encounter combat and your choice of how to approach them, but otherwise, keep you one a rail for the sake of the story.

I would hate if this game had you just doing whatever you wanted whenever. That's the kind of shit that kills every game Ubisoft makes right now.

who said anything about sandbox? thats not what i said and not even what i am talking about. The game, reviews and videos all make you think you have options as you progress in how you will attack foes your encounter. But thats not true. Sure you come across guys with guns, so you would think your supposed to be the smart batman and figure out how to approach it. But thats not the case....instead there is a strategically placed gargoil for you to grapple up to in order to kill the guys with the guns

and the vents are the same way. If a door is locked, they add a vent to give you the illusion that your found an alternate route. Its very linear in that regards. Its basically making the stealth portion of the game worthless. Its like an add on with no point.

And i am sorry, but if a kick, jump and punch button are too much for people to handle, then you got problems. I am not talking about memorizing a bunch of mortal combat moves. I am saying simple XX - XYX or XYB type combo to make you feel like you are controlling the combat. This is nothing more then mash the X button, wait for the lines over the guys head and hit the Y button.

with that said, i still think its a very good game. I also dont think people should worry about the 12 hours that guys are saying it is in length. If you run thru the story mode without exploring then 12 hrs.....but if you take time to solve the riddles and look around then its gonna be alot longer then that

 

[SethMode]

who said anything about sandbox? thats not what i said and not even what i am talking about. The game, reviews and videos all make you think you have options as you progress in how you will attack foes your encounter. But thats not true. Sure you come across guys with guns, so you would think your supposed to be the smart batman and figure out how to approach it. But thats not the case....instead there is a strategically placed gargoil for you to grapple up to in order to kill the guys with the guns

and the vents are the same way. If a door is locked, they add a vent to give you the illusion that your found an alternate route. Its very linear in that regards. Its basically making the stealth portion of the game worthless. Its like an add on with no point.

And i am sorry, but if a kick, jump and punch button are too much for people to handle, then you got problems. I am not talking about memorizing a bunch of mortal combat moves. I am saying simple XX - XYX or XYB type combo to make you feel like you are controlling the combat. This is nothing more then mash the X button, wait for the lines over the guys head and hit the Y button.

with that said, i still think its a very good game. I also dont think people should worry about the 12 hours that guys are saying it is in length. If you run thru the story mode without exploring then 12 hrs.....but if you take time to solve the riddles and look around then its gonna be alot longer then that

I'm sorry man, but that sounds even MORE nitpicky. First of all, of COURSE there are areas that certain skills play off of. That's how every game works. You make it sound like this game was advertised as some scenario where you're thrown into a situation with some wire and a sock and you get to figure out your way of completing it. You have a base of moves, an assortment of Batman-esque environments, and you use them to your advantage depending on the situation. The amount of ways that you can take down foes strategically grows significantly as the game goes on, but still, even early in the game it's great to swoop down and take one guy out right over where you dropped some explosive gel, then swoop away, wait for others to approach, drop the guard, and then detonate the explosive gel. There is so much strategery that can go into so many scenarios, with weak walls, floors, whatever, it's great. And some of the gadgets you get later just really play into the whole idea of the "predator" mode.

There are all kinds of creative ways to take down foes, yet you seem caught up on this idea that there are limitations to set pieces. What more could you want? Places to hide and creative ways to take down your opponents.

The whole part about the door is locked so there is a vent is just perplexing to me...every game is like that. I'm confused at what you THOUGHT that this game could be. Games ALWAYS show you one path that you can't access, for whatever reason, and offer a different one, yet for some reason in this sense you think it's "very linear". Brining me back to what I said before: a good narrative SHOULD be linear.

As far as the combat goes, I guess we just will have to agree to disagree. I don't think that hitting XXYB or hitting XXX and then Y to counter and then XB to throw are much different. But I did play on hard where you don't get the little lightning bolt things that tell you an attack is coming. To me, it felt just like the combos you were mentioning. Like I said though, it seems like we just don't agree there.

I will say that, I beat the game in less than 12 hours and got every riddle, so if length is a reason for you to not buy this game, don't. Personally though, I loved every minute of it and look forward to playing it again.

Anyway, that diatribe aside, I hope I didn't come across as attacking, I just really don't understand your complaints. It's similar to some others that I've heard and, as I said before, it sounds like people are trying to look for reasons to hate on a much hyped game that is actually very good. Just my .02.

 

[Maynard]

i am not gonna debate my opinion with you. it doesnt really matter if u understand my opinon.... you like the game for its simplicity. I prefer a little more depth and creativity......

 

[brees fan]

So is this game worth buying or is it just a rent?

 

[Krebs]

probably a rental, unless you are obsessive about collectibles, put in some good hours a day and you can beat it

 

[Lupe]

So is this game worth buying or is it just a rent?

IMO just a rent. I'll prolly only play through it once. If you wanna find all the easter eggs and stuff and if your into completing the game 100% then it's a buy.

 

[Tengo Juego]

I feel so stupid, I'm stuck. I cant figure out how to get back in the Bat cave after that run in with Croc.