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BCS/Bowl Selection Discussion...

Pitt was ranked #15 according to the BCS, how is that an average opponent. Not to mention they came back from 21 down to do it. (In before they shouldn't have been down 21). The main point is Pitt isn't an "average" team. Cincinatti beat 3 teams when they were ranked ( Pitt at 15, WV at 25, and USF at 21) They also beat Oregon state who ended the season ranked #18. A pretty strong resume imo.

They should have at least jumped TCU but that doesn't really matter.

If Cincy began the season ranked in the top 10, and the season played out the way it did, are they the ones playing for a National Championship?

They did jump TCU .

The problem most people seem to have with Cincy is , two of the main wins they have were v BE opponents . A conference nobody seems to give any respect to and then the other was v South Florida , a team that ALWAYS falls off towards the end of the season .
 
They did jump TCU .

The problem most people seem to have with Cincy is , two of the main wins they have were v BE opponents . A conference nobody seems to give any respect to and then the other was v South Florida , a team that ALWAYS falls off towards the end of the season .

Oh, I didn't see the new BCS rankings, only the AP i think.
 
If Cincy began the season ranked in the top 10, and the season played out the way it did, are they the ones playing for a National Championship?

No, because two teams that would of ranked in front of them, Texas and Alabama finished undefeated as well.
 
Just to add on to Archer's point, Cincy gave away a ton of tickets for free last year and a lot of those people didn't even go.
 
No, because two teams that would of ranked in front of them, Texas and Alabama finished undefeated as well.

TCU and Boise State both started in front of them and finished undefeated as well. Cincy's body of work> Texas' imo.

I just think if Cincy started in the top 10 they would have leap frogged Texas (or should have) by the end of the season.
 
LOL @ Cincy getting an AP National Championship. God, you're a fucking idiot.
key word is "should" dipshit of course they wouldnt get one. your the fucking idiot talkin like "PSU is in the BCS and if you think otherwise then fuck you".

Did you really think the BCS was gonna take PSU over Iowa, when Iowa is ranked higher AND won the head to head? Yes the BCS wants $ but they would have taken a TON of heat for that, which they cant exactly afford right now.

YOU are the fucking idiot.
 
Guess who was right all along? PSU did NOT make the BCS, as I guaranteed. Now they are gonna get their quantam singularity kicked by LSU.

I think all the bcs games are good. If Bama/Texas is sloppy and Cincy beats UF in a good fashion, Cincy should get an AP National Championship

How does that make sense? How can you say that Cincy is better than the other two undefeated teams in that scenario?
 
key word is "should" dipshit of course they wouldnt get one. your the fucking idiot talkin like "PSU is in the BCS and if you think otherwise then fuck you".

Did you really think the BCS was gonna take PSU over Iowa, when Iowa is ranked higher AND won the head to head? Yes the BCS wants $ but they would have taken a TON of heat for that, which they cant exactly afford right now.

YOU are the fucking idiot.

You realize the same damn thing happened in 2007, right?

And the entire site thinks you're a fucking idiot, I'm surprised you haven't seen that yet.
 
Fiesta took TCU because Cincys fans put on a bad showing at the 2009 Orange Bowl v VT

Orange didn't want Cincy again obviously , Orange also said expecting Boise to come that distance and still bring alot of people wasn't realistic a few weeks back . PLUS , Iowa hold the Orange Bowl record for bringing something like 50,000 fans .

Fiesta bowl didn't want to touch Cincy (same problem as before) and have a history with Boise so it was a safer bet in terms of fans showing up

Sugar left with Cincy

Plus the Fiesta taking TCU helps them with the Regional deal as they usually have the Big 12 tie in. No other Big 12 team was worth inviting s they take a team from the Big 12 Region assuring a huge turn out by TCU fans who only have to travel 2 states over for the game.
 
Very interesting spin on this from another site I post at. Another article from Blue and White Illustrated, but don't pay attention to the Iowa/Penn State debate. Focus on the boldface print.

It would seem the financial impact of Penn State in the Orange Bowl is greater than Iowa. Plus the TV ratings for the game should be better. What do you think went into the selection of Iowa for the Orange Bowl.

This was one of the most unusual bowl situations that I have experienced over the past 25 years relative to Penn State.

Almost on a daily basis, the scenarios for both the Fiesta and Orange Bowls changed.

Going into Saturday's conference championship games, all of the commentary relating to Iowa and Penn State in relationship to the Orange and Fiesta Bowls clearly indicated that one of those two teams would receive a bid. Then, early Sunday morning following Saturday's games, it became evident after speaking with a Fiesta Bowl rep that there was a lot of politics being played behind the scenes and for whatever reason, it became clear that the Fiesta Bowl was going to end up selecting Boise and TCU.

Ratings and attendance-wise, to me, that selection doesn't make much sense. It's a rematch of last year's Poinsettia Bowl, where half the stadium was empty and the rating was only like a 3.7.

If you listen to the bowl representatives and they're being 100 percent up front with what they're saying, the head-to-head between Penn State and Iowa was one of the least things they considered relative to their decision.

Maybe the fact that this is the last year FOX carries the BCS bowls, what I was told late yesterday afternoon was that they have no incentive to bump the ratings up for a competing network in ESPN when they take over the BCS coverage in 2010.

I understand your confusion because it appears both financially and TV-ratings wise, except for the championship game and possibly the Rose Bowl, I don't think the projected ratings especially for the Fiesta and Orange Bowls look very good with the match-ups that have been made.
 
Very interesting spin on this from another site I post at. Another article from Blue and White Illustrated, but don't pay attention to the Iowa/Penn State debate. Focus on the boldface print.

Maybe neither team and the public didn't care because it was the Poinsettia Bowl? LOL at comparing the Poinsettia Bowl to the Fiesta Bowl. That stadium will be sold out and people will watch it.
 
Maybe neither team and the public didn't care because it was the Poinsettia Bowl? LOL at comparing the Poinsettia Bowl to the Fiesta Bowl. That stadium will be sold out and people will watch it.

Eh, maybe I shouldn't have bolded that part. Focus on the second part of that.

It does bring up an interesting debate on whether Fox gives two shits about their ratings because of the switch to ESPN next year.
 
Eh, maybe I shouldn't have bolded that part. Focus on the second part of that.

It does bring up an interesting debate on whether Fox gives two shits about their ratings because of the switch to ESPN next year.

Except for the fact that Fox doesn't choose the bowl matchups. The individual bowl committees do. Why would the Fiesta Bowl purposefully submarine their own bowl? This column doesn't make any sense. It just sounds like the rants of a pissed off/jilted Penn State fan.
 
Maybe neither team and the public didn't care because it was the Poinsettia Bowl? LOL at comparing the Poinsettia Bowl to the Fiesta Bowl. That stadium will be sold out and people will watch it.

This

The San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia Bowl doesn't sound all that inviting to me
 
Except for the fact that Fox doesn't choose the bowl matchups. The individual bowl committees do. Why would the Fiesta Bowl purposefully submarine their own bowl? This column doesn't make any sense. It just sounds like the rants of a pissed off/jilted Penn State fan.

Maybe so, I just thought it was interesting.

Carry on.
 
How exactly did it go with the bowl pick order?


National Championship: 1 vs 2 in the BCS: Alabama vs Texas (Auto bids)

Rose Bowl(as there was no B10 or P10 team in the NC game): OhSt vs Oregon(auto bids)

Orange Bowl auto bid to Tech.

Now since the Sugar lost the SEC Champ and the #1 team they get first replacement pick. They take Florida.

The Fiesta gets to replace Texas then and take TCU.

Now the bowls select the teams in order of which they play closest to the game. This year the order is: Orange, Fiesta, Sugar.

Orange picks their open slot. They take Iowa as an at large.

Orange Bowl is GTech vs Iowa.

Fiesta selects next.

They can choose from: Cincy, Boise St, Va Tech, and BYU. Cincy doesn't travel well. Tech has 3 losses and BYU well yeah..no chance. The Fiesta has a history with Boise St from the Oklahoma game so they take Boise St.

Fiesta Bowl: TCU vs Boise St.

The Sugar "selects" next but must take Cincy as Cincy has an auto bid to a BCS game as the winner of the Big East.

Sugar Bowl: Florida vs Cincy.
 
If the BCS took TCU or Boise seriously they would have been selected earlier, therefore not playing eachother

How many more times do we have to cover this......the BCS did not select what teams played in what bowl. The individual bowl committees did.
 
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