BCS Dilemma.

[nflman2033]

yeah i would say it would come down to a big 10 or a pac 10 to get that last spot

 

[chazmaniandevil]

id love to see stanford get in there

 

[Woy]

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/10378268/Weekend-wrap:-TCU,-Boise-State-both-look-good

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2. If the Orange and Fiesta Bowl selection committees have the choice between a two-loss Penn State team, a two-loss Wisconsin team and a two-loss Iowa team, who are they taking?

As you know, only two teams from any one BCS conference can play in BCS bowls. With Ohio State locked and loaded for the Rose Bowl, that leaves quite a decision from either the Orange or Fiesta Bowl selection committee on which two-loss Big Ten team they'd rather invite.

There's a very strong chance Wisconsin, Iowa and Penn State all finish the season with just two losses on the year. Only one of the three can play BCS football.

Though it may seem like a no-brainer to give the nod to Iowa of the three, it's not that easy. Yes, Iowa beat both Wisconsin and Penn State head-to-head this season. And sure, few would argue that the Hawkeyes have one of college football's best traveling fan bases. But when it comes down to it, I think Joe Pa and the more nationally recognized Nittany Lions would get the nod.

Could Joe Paterno find himself coaching his last BCS bowl game? (Hunter Martin / Getty Images)

This, of course, would leave thousands of fans from Iowa City to Des Moines outraged. Having been burned three years ago by a similar "odd men out" situation, it would cause great distress in Madison, too. But this is college football, and in college football, things like logic, head-to-head matchups and what's "fair" don't always come into play. In fact, they rarely do.

With Iowa coming off back-to-back losses, banged up at various positions and without the big name star attraction of a Ricky Stanzi, Penn State becomes the far more appealing — and likely more lucrative — at-large option for the Orange and Fiesta. Iowa fans have a fantastic track record and will travel to any bowl host city in hordes, but Penn State's fan base can hold its own, too.

Though Iowa has the larger alumni fan base in the Southwest, Penn State could likely fill both the Fiesta and Orange Bowl, too. Furthermore, Joe Pa and the Nittany Lions are the bigger television draw. Fans will tune in to see the legendary coach on what might be his last BCS bowl sidelines. Merchandise will be sold.

Wisconsin is looming, but is the likely third choice of the three. With a big win over Michigan State in East Lansing on Saturday, Penn State can make the statement it needs to leapfrog Iowa in both the BCS standings and the hearts and minds of bowl selection committees in Arizona and Florida

It'll cause a lot of confusion a bit of outrage, but I think two-loss Penn State would likely get the nod over two-loss Iowa. And to the great dismay of many, that's regardless of what happened when the two teams took the field in September or how the two teams looked comparatively against Ohio State.

Absurd? Senseless? Unjust?

There have been a lot worse words used to describe the BCS.

 

[Goober]

Go Michigan St!

 

[Woy]

Go Michigan St!

You better root for the Spartans and the Golden Gophers. Iowa would get the bid over Wisconsin if Penn State lost.

 

[St. Francisco]

Iowa is getting the at large bid no matter what.. Its as simple as that. Fuck Penn St.

My Dad has become a diehard Hawkeyes fan since he moved to Iowa, and he thinks the same thing.

It's cute how delusional you guys are. You need to re-read that article that Woy just posted.

"This, of course, would leave thousands of fans from Iowa City to Des Moines outraged. Having been burned three years ago by a similar "odd men out" situation, it would cause great distress in Madison, too. But this is college football, and in college football, things like logic, head-to-head matchups and what's "fair" don't always come into play. In fact, they rarely do."

Truer words have never been spoken. If it comes down to Penn St. and Iowa, the Nittany Lions are going. It's not right, and it's not fair, but that's how it will shake down.

 

[Sportsbuck]

LMAO at Ricky Stanzi being a big name star attraction

 

[Woy]

My Dad has become a diehard Hawkeyes fan since he moved to Iowa, and he thinks the same thing.

It's cute how delusional you guys are. You need to re-read that article that Woy just posted.

"This, of course, would leave thousands of fans from Iowa City to Des Moines outraged. Having been burned three years ago by a similar "odd men out" situation, it would cause great distress in Madison, too. But this is college football, and in college football, things like logic, head-to-head matchups and what's "fair" don't always come into play. In fact, they rarely do."

Truer words have never been spoken. If it comes down to Penn St. and Iowa, the Nittany Lions are going. It's not right, and it's not fair, but that's how it will shake down.

Thank you SF.

 

[Dez]

1 more win and a few losses from the teams ranked above us and Okie State may sneak into the BCS!!!!! Just got to go to Norman next week and beat the Sooners

 

[Archer]

1 more win and a few losses from the teams ranked above us and Okie State may sneak into the BCS!!!!! Just got to go to Norman next week and beat the Sooners

If Okie st get in ahead of Boise , TCU or Cincy (if they are all undefeated) I may just lose all hope with the BCS

 

[Woy]

Penn State blows out Michigan State on national television. Iowa beats a worse Minnesota team ugly, without their starting quarterback.

Yesterday's games just gave the Nittany Lions a better chance at making the BCS.

 

[Goober]

Wow we lost to Northwestern. I didn't watch a single minute of football this weekend. fml.

 

[BUCK3YE5]

i still say cincy gets in when pitt beats them. Now if Cincy beats Pitt...idk what lol.

 

[JeremyHight]

My guess for the BCS bowl breakdown...

Rose - Oregon vs Ohio State
Sugar - Florida vs Cincy
Fiesta - Boise State vs Iowa
Orange - Georgia Tech vs TCU
BCS - Texas vs Alabama

 

[Woy]

i still say cincy gets in when pitt beats them. Now if Cincy beats Pitt...idk what lol.

LOL @ you thinking the business known as the BCS would take two Big East teams.

 

[Woy]

Posting some more statistics that are in favor of Penn State.

Last year's Neilsen Ratings for both teams' bowl games: Penn State in the Rose Bowl against USC (11.7) while Iowa in the Capital One Bowl against South Carolina (3.1). Yeah, I know that was a BCS game and it was against USC, but that is still a HUGE difference.

Last time both teams played in the Orange Bowl: 2006, when #3 Penn State defeated a #22 Florida State (12.3). 2003, when #5 Iowa lost to #4 USC (9.7).

 

[Archer]

Just to add to this

Watching Boise play tonight and a "Fiesta Bowl rep" who was at the game told ESPN that they were set on having a Big 10 team (Iowa or PSU you would guess) v Boise/Okie st.

He also added that Boise would have little/no shot at making a BCS Bowl if Texas lose to Nebraska

 

[Dez]

Just to add to this

Watching Boise play tonight and a "Fiesta Bowl rep" who was at the game told ESPN that they were set on having a Big 10 team (Iowa or PSU you would guess) v Boise/Okie st.

He also added that Boise would have little/no shot at making it if Texas lose to Nebraska

Oklahoma State-Penn State should be very interesting then. :shifty:

assuming we kick OU's ass today.

and i honestly dont care about the title game anymore. It's clearly gonna be the SEC champion vs Texas or TCU. Actually i take that back, I'd love to see the Frogs get in there.

 

[Woy]

Oh, and to touch on the whole "but Iowa beat Penn State" debate. Remember in 2007 that Kansas lost to Missouri, but yet got the bid over the Tigers.

 

[BUCK3YE5]

Pitt will beat Cincy, and both will get into the BCS.