Bill Maher - NFL & Socialism

[ram29jackson]

Obvious fact is obvious. Anyone here who knows a lick about sports knows this. It also gets bypassed because its a great combination of trolling and idiocy (which are probably the same).



I guess it takes one to know one then. Act like a shithead, get shit back.

its not an obvious fact you obsessive, trolling, stalker.
and even if it is obvious its still an unusual interesting thing in sports history.

 

[kmanharris]

Rams stick to the LR. Don't bring down one of the last few parts of this forum that still generates solid conversation.

 

[ram29jackson]

Rams stick to the LR. Don't bring down one of the last few parts of this forum that still generates solid conversation.

youre 21, you really dont know crap about anything either.

Get back to me in a few years and we'll see if your worth talking to.

 

[BrntO4Life]

youre 21, you really dont know crap about anything either.

Get back to me in a few years and we'll see if your worth talking to.

I just don't get why you have to be such a pandering asshole all the time? We're having a discussion in here about Maher's remarks, but you can't build a semblance of an argument one way or the other.

If you're just trolling, fine. But please take it to the Locker Room.

 

[ram29jackson]

I just don't get why you have to be such a pandering asshole all the time? We're having a discussion in here about Maher's remarks, but you can't build a semblance of an argument one way or the other.

If you're just trolling, fine. But please take it to the Locker Room.

If you cant hang with someone being smarter than you,thats tough shit.

Bill Maher is an idiot and you dont know shit about the reality of socialism.

Have a nice day little boy.

 

[BrntO4Life]

lol rams

 

[Maize]

If you cant hang with someone being smarter than you,thats tough shit.

Bill Maher is an idiot and you dont know shit about the reality of socialism.

Have a nice day little boy.

Ok, I'll bite, shocked this thread is still going... what's the "reality of socialism?"

 

[1ke]

decent conversation ?
more often then not youre just another insulting jack ass.

The fact is most here are young and stupid. I have said many insightful things and thrown bones out there to get people to look at stuff from a different angle and given history lessons but the majority here are too stupid to get it. I say something about the Packers are named for workers as opposed to most every team being named after an animal or soldier or something and it gets totally bypassed. Most of you are inept, unthinking, fools with no respect for history or people.




:statue:

That got bypassed because it was useless and noone gives a fuck.

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

lolol@ Rams.

you intellectual pinhead wannabe.

Him to Rblake.

How can anyone groan such genuine hilarity.

 

[nesper]

maher is wrong. It is not socialism, it is not redistribution of wealth. Each team, all 32 provide what is needed to complete the contract. They put a team on a field that then gets televised in a variety of markets. This is what fox, cbs, nbc and espn pay for an NFL football game they are not paying for giants vs cowboys 17 times. each and every team contributes to the pot the same way. you can not argue quantity or quality because the networks are paying for an NFL game and that is provided by each and every team equally. each and every team gets an equal share of the pot.

it is not from each according to his ability to each according to his need.

maher is 100% wrong.

he just tried to use the yankees telling the rangers to stay off welfare to push his agenda. HOw he ever called himself a libertarian is beyond me.

 

[nesper]

to further expand on why its a capitalist system why doesnt every team get to host a superbowl, the combine, the draft, the pro bowl? All are revenue generating products of the NFL and while the individual team income from some is not there it still brings in money to each city that would be a direct benefit to each team (save the draft and pro bowl)

 

[EmpireWF]

why doesnt every team get to host the draft, the pro bowl? All are revenue generating products of the NFL and while the individual team income from some is not there it still brings in money to each city that would be a direct benefit to each team (save the draft and pro bowl)

So how did the NFL Draft in NY help the Giants/Jets?

How does the Pro Bowl in Hawaii help any of the 32 teams?

maher is wrong. It is not socialism, it is not redistribution of wealth. Each team, all 32 provide what is needed to complete the contract. They put a team on a field that then gets televised in a variety of markets. This is what fox, cbs, nbc and espn pay for an NFL football game they are not paying for giants vs cowboys 17 times. each and every team contributes to the pot the same way. you can not argue quantity or quality because the networks are paying for an NFL game and that is provided by each and every team equally. each and every team gets an equal share of the pot.

Nope. It is. Revenue sharing is redistribution.

FOX, CBS, NBC, ESPN pay whatever fee to the NFL. Let's just say it's $700 million combined for argument purposes.

All that money goes in one big pot and every team gets an equal share. No matter if the Browns had zero national games or if the Patriots had 5 national games. Each team gets the same amount.

Licensing fees from merchandise also goes in one big pot and is divided up equally amongst all 32 teams. So no matter if Tom Brady has the highest selling jersey, New England will not make more money off his jersey than the Arizona Cardinals will.

 

[ram29jackson]

That got bypassed because it was useless and noone gives a fuck.

the only people that say " I dont give a fuck " are the young and stupid ones.

So, you basically prove my point in one fell swoop.

 

[ram29jackson]

So how did the NFL Draft in NY help the Giants/Jets?

How does the Pro Bowl in Hawaii help any of the 32 teams?



Nope. It is. Revenue sharing is redistribution.

FOX, CBS, NBC, ESPN pay whatever fee to the NFL. Let's just say it's $700 million combined for argument purposes.

All that money goes in one big pot and every team gets an equal share. No matter if the Browns had zero national games or if the Patriots had 5 national games. Each team gets the same amount.

Licensing fees from merchandise also goes in one big pot and is divided up equally amongst all 32 teams. So no matter if Tom Brady has the highest selling jersey, New England will not make more money off his jersey than the Arizona Cardinals will.

so what? none of that comes close to socialism.

 

[EmpireWF]

so what? none of that comes close to socialism.

If it's direct capitalism, the NY Giants, the NY Jets, the Dallas Cowboys, the Pittsburgh Steelers, etc. should be making a shitload more coin off the TV contracts/merchandising than the Jacksonville Jaguars, the Green Bay Packers, etc.

 

[ram29jackson]

If it's direct capitalism, the NY Giants, the NY Jets, the Dallas Cowboys, the Pittsburgh Steelers, etc. should be making a shitload more coin off the TV contracts/merchandising than the Jacksonville Jaguars, the Green Bay Packers, etc.

a money making entity distributing its profit somewhat evenly to its different franchises doesnt have a damn thing to do with socialism.





...hey, Step Brothers is still on !....

 

[dave]

At the end of the day Ram29jackson - be honest.
Would the NFL be better without a salary cap?
Would MLB be better with one?

 

[nesper]

If it's direct capitalism, the NY Giants, the NY Jets, the Dallas Cowboys, the Pittsburgh Steelers, etc. should be making a shitload more coin off the TV contracts/merchandising than the Jacksonville Jaguars, the Green Bay Packers, etc.

and this is why you are wrong and maher is wrong. every single NFL game is on TV period end of story. merchandising money in the scheme of the NFL is a drop in the bucket. TV money is where its at and every team puts 16 games on tv. now before you say well jacksonville was blacked out or tampa or etc those games were still on tv in other markets.

Just take it form the NFL's own opinion they are selling a product together , they sell the rights to televise their product and to sell their merchandise. The NFL doesn't make the choice to make more pats, steelers or giants jerseys, hats, etc that is made by the company with the contract to sell NFL merchandise.

If anything is an example of soicialism it is baseball and of course this was mahers idea of capitalism where the mets, yanks and red sox contribute money that gets sent to the small market teams. Teams that negotiate their own TV contracts for the majority of their games. teams that act as an individual entity ruled by a czar (selig)

 

[nesper]

btw redistribution is when you take from one (like baseball) and give to another not when a group sells something and splits the profits.

If 5 of us had a pie and sold it for $5 and we each got a dollar thats revenue sharing if we each had a slice and you sold yours for 10 and i sold mine for 1 and someone took 3 from you gave it to me thats redistribution.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

nesper is destroying everyone in this thread, and saying all the shit I was too lazy to say while enjoying r29j trolling the fuck out of the youngsters.

Bill Maher wildly off base and sounding ridiculous, as per the usual.