Brett Favre's career from 2007 - present

[FedEx227]

I don't think it was that Jordan was a "gamer", he was/is the most talented basketball player of all-time. He was really, really good. Of course it appeared that he was "rising to the occasions" but doesn't that do a bit of disservice to his actual skill?

 

[ultfrisbee]

Where will P Manning fit in this?

 

[jeffx]

Brett Favre is/will be the ultimate gamer, he rivals Jordan when it come to gametime. He keeps punching away and is almost always successful. I don't think he is ahead of Unitas as a QB. Favre has never been the most accurate QB in the league. Montana definitely beats him for second. Then Favre comes in as a close third.

I wouldn't put Favre on Jordan's level. Joe Montana yes, Favre, no. Much as I hate his ass, Jordan was money come playoff time. Montana, Jordan, Tiger Woods, Ali - that's the cream of the crop. Favre would be on the next level, IMO.

 

[bucky]

Bart Starr's Playoff Record as Starting QB: 1960 (0-1), 1961 (1-0), 1962 (1-0), 1965 (2-0), 1966 (2-0), 1967 (3-0)

Playoff record 9-1

Bart Starr is an all time great, I don't think anybody denies that. That said, he did play in an era where the forward pass was still used as a supplement to the run and not as a primary means to move the football

And if you look at the years when they won the 3 consecutive championships, GB's running game declined. Horning and Taylor were gone and much of the offensive burden lay on Starr's passing.

Starr also did it during a time when the rules didn't GREATLY favor PASSING and OFFENSE, like it does today.

Look at Starr's playoff td/int ratio again. And look at ALL the games that Brett threw the playoff game ending int.

Again, the 6 INT game against St. Louis skews the heck out of that playoff INT per game percentage. Without it, Favre is smack in the middle of Montana and Elway. There is no way the Packers were going to beat the "Greatest Show on Turf" on the road the year they went on to win the Superbowl.

BS. St L had a great offense, but they had like the 25th ranked defense. And Brett throws 6 ints. No excuse for it. Not GOAT.

Starr >>>>>> Favre in playoffs. No question about it. Favre's not GOAT unless you're only talking regular season..

 

[Senser81]

1) Unitas - Put up numbers that took years to break with players that had less than half the skills of players today.

Actually, Fran Tarkenton broke almost all of Unitas' major records in 1975...2 seasons after Unitas had retired in 1973.

 

[MrBill]

i don't know why people even bother with mrbill at this point.

Is is because I can back up my arguments with statistics? BTW, I don't have Favre first on my GOAT list as stated about 20 times in this thread. I think the list is something like Montana, Elway, Favre, Marino. Senser is the one that started the thread and I think it is just stupid that some of you guys don't think an argument can even be made on Favre's behalf when he owns every QB record in the NFL. That just shows a narrow minded hate for the man.

 

[bucky]

That just shows a narrow minded hate for the man.

Not hate. Just being realistic.

 

[FedEx227]

I wouldn't put Favre on Jordan's level. Joe Montana yes, Favre, no. Much as I hate his ass, Jordan was money come playoff time. Montana, Jordan, Tiger Woods, Ali - that's the cream of the crop. Favre would be on the next level, IMO.

Jordan was money everytime. He was the most talented basketball player of all-time.

Tiger Woods too. Why do people attribute his ability to "being a gamer"... perhaps he's just really, really good at golf?