College vs Pro

[NAHSTE]

There is no major sport were less games matter.

-Every non BCS league team plays an entire schedule of completely meaningles games.

-Even some BCS teams play an entire schedule of completely meaningless games (Cincy says hello).

-Even for the OSU's and Texas's and LSU's and Bama's, "every game counts" -- until you lose one or two. Then, exhibition time.

-The supposed "great" regular season is nothing more than diminishing returns. Once more & more teams get knocked off, less & less of the games actually matter. By the final weeks, you are lucky to get 3 or 4 truly meaningful games.

-It's also the only sport that plays an entire postseason of meaningless exhibitions, save one game.

The fewer teams you allow to compete for a title, the less meaningful games you end up with. By simply adding a 4 team playoff (nevermind a more ideal 6 or 8 team field), college football would increase the number of truly meaningful games, and improve the sport drastically--both the regular season and the brutal postseason.

Fewer not less, but I get your point.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Fewer not less, but I get your point.

alright asswipe, edited.

 

[mcstl25]

NFL by a mile. I try to like college football, but outside of watching Mizzou, I just can't get into it since there's not a playoff system.

 

[NAHSTE]

alright asswipe, edited.

Sorry just a pet peeve of mine, I agreed with your point did I not?

 

[FirstTimer]

There is no major sport where fewer games matter.

-Every non BCS league team plays an entire schedule of completely meaningles games.

-Even some BCS teams play an entire schedule of completely meaningless games (Cincy says hello).

-Even for the OSU's and Texas's and LSU's and Bama's, "every game counts" -- until you lose one or two. Then, exhibition time.

-The supposed "great" regular season is nothing more than diminishing returns. Once more & more teams get knocked off, less & less of the games actually matter. By the final weeks, you are lucky to get 3 or 4 truly meaningful games.

-It's also the only sport that plays an entire postseason of meaningless exhibitions, save one game.

The fewer teams you allow to compete for a title, the less meaningful games you end up with. By simply adding a 4 team playoff (nevermind a more ideal 6 or 8 team field), college football would increase the number of truly meaningful games, and improve the sport drastically--both the regular season and the brutal postseason.

I agree overall with your reasoning but I enjoy watching the college game much more. I can sit down and watch two college teams I never see and enjoy watching the game where as in the NFL if the Bears aren't playing it's tough for me to sustain interest in the game.

 

[Realist]

Love my 49ers and Noles. I love both College and Pro. They both have their positives and negatives, but it's all football

 

[Sportsbuck]

I agree overall with your reasoning but I enjoy watching the college game much more. I can sit down and watch two college teams I never see and enjoy watching the game where as in the NFL if the Bears aren't playing it's tough for me to sustain interest in the game.

I agree with this.

I barely watch Monday Night Football in the NFL but I will be watching two shitty MAC schools duke it out on a Tuesday night.

 

[FirstTimer]

There is no major sport where fewer games matter.

-Every non BCS league team plays an entire schedule of completely meaningles games.

-Even some BCS teams play an entire schedule of completely meaningless games (Cincy says hello).

-Even for the OSU's and Texas's and LSU's and Bama's, "every game counts" -- until you lose one or two. Then, exhibition time.

-The supposed "great" regular season is nothing more than diminishing returns. Once more & more teams get knocked off, less & less of the games actually matter. By the final weeks, you are lucky to get 3 or 4 truly meaningful games.

-It's also the only sport that plays an entire postseason of meaningless exhibitions, save one game.

The fewer teams you allow to compete for a title, the less meaningful games you end up with. By simply adding a 4 team playoff (nevermind a more ideal 6 or 8 team field), college football would increase the number of truly meaningful games, and improve the sport drastically--both the regular season and the brutal postseason.

I'd like to comment on this separately as well. I'm not a huge fan of the BCS but IMO they need to go to a playoff system using the conference champs or go back to the old Bowl Coalition/Whatever the hell you want to call it system from the late 80's-Mid 90's. At least then you'd have some more meaningful games in the Bowl Season if you had some crazy bowl season match ups where 1 didn't have to play 2 and a split National Title was a possibility. Either go to an objective playoff system or let's have some chaos. Don't half ass this shit like what the BCS system has been trying to do. I mean really all the BCS is doing is taking the old Bowl Alliance rankings, adding a CPU ranking and SOS and spitting out a 1 vs 2 game.

 

[FirstTimer]

I agree with this.

I barely watch Monday Night Football in the NFL but I will be watching two shitty MAC schools duke it out on a Tuesday night.

When I went to NIU I went to games pretty regularly and really enjoyed myself at each one. I know if I went to an NFL game of two teams I didn't care about I'd be ready to leave after the 1st quarter. Even the Super Bowl I will go to a party but 95% of the time unless your team is playing you are sitting around drinking, shooting the shit, trying to get laid, etc. The game is background noise a lot until the end if the game is down to the wire.

 

[FedEx227]

I hear ya. That's sort of what's happened with me and the NFL and I really have no idea how/why/when. I'm just not interested in it at all. I'd rather watch East Carolina vs. Rutgers.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I agree overall with your reasoning but I enjoy watching the college game much more. I can sit down and watch two college teams I never see and enjoy watching the game where as in the NFL if the Bears aren't playing it's tough for me to sustain interest in the game.

That's the thing, I love watching college football, and thats the reason im so passionate about the shit stain that is the BCS.

I get all fired up about college football, and then I remember that the Boise game i'm watching ultimately means nothing, and it pisses me off.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I'm a collegiate kind of guy...I find that the collegiate level of any sport is more entertaining for a number of reasons, none of which involves the quality of play, as the pro games clearly put together better, more fine tuned games, but those games in turn are very monotonous, unvarying, and homogeneous play...it doesn't make for as quality a form of entertainment.

I'll watch my favorite team and the game-of-the-week in the NFL for example (or, I find enjoyment out of watching the NFL RZChannel), but I can watch hours upon hours of college sports regardless of the game and watch the entire game and have a blast doing it.

In terms of going to a game, its college and not close. The atmosphere for a college game in comparison to the pro game is unmatched...pro games tend to be very dry in terms of attendance at atmosphere while college games can almost be...surreal.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

There is no major sport where fewer games matter.

-Every non BCS league team plays an entire schedule of completely meaningles games.

-Even some BCS teams play an entire schedule of completely meaningless games (Cincy says hello).

-Even for the OSU's and Texas's and LSU's and Bama's, "every game counts" -- until you lose one or two. Then, exhibition time.

-The supposed "great" regular season is nothing more than diminishing returns. Once more & more teams get knocked off, less & less of the games actually matter. By the final weeks, you are lucky to get 3 or 4 truly meaningful games.

-It's also the only sport that plays an entire postseason of meaningless exhibitions, save one game.

The fewer teams you allow to compete for a title, the less meaningful games you end up with. By simply adding a 4 team playoff (nevermind a more ideal 6 or 8 team field), college football would increase the number of truly meaningful games, and improve the sport drastically--both the regular season and the brutal postseason.

I see your point, but I feel you are looking at it completely through the hindsight eye...

In hindsight, you'll say Cincy played an entire, undefeated schedule of meaningless games...but you must realize that despite going undefeated and not going to the big game, every game for them was as important as the last before that point...it just so happened Bama or Texas played undefeated schedules as well. It doesn't change the fact that late in the season, in Pitt, in the snow, they played a helluva meaningful game. If Colt McCoy's pass stays in the air for a second later or stumbles a bit, you are seeing Cincy in the championship game.

Also, even though on the national level, games can be "meaningless" amongst the small spheres that comprise of college football's fanbase they are not. The final few weeks are filled with games with bowl implications, rivalry games, etc. While the NFL season's final month is dull and boring and with little meaning, college football games, even if you are 3-9, the final weeks hold meaning as you travel to see your rivals, or you have homecoming games, etc. Meaningless in the grand scheme, but to the people that matter to that certain school, meaningless is the farthest thing from the truth.

As for the Bowl Games being meaningless...well, grand scheme, yes...but those games are about money, and little else (the little else would be the extra practice time teams get in prep for next year).

 

[Gonzo]

You wanna see some passionate football?

Watch kickoffs, kick returns, punt returns, etc... Special teams in general.

Those guys bust their asses off EVERY time they get on the field because they want and would die to have a guaranteed roster spot.

 

[strahanfan92]

i guess it just depends on where you live. In the South, college football is king. In the north its pretty balanced. And the West is all about NFL

I would say midwest = balanced, and north east = definitely NFL

 

[Golden Taters]

HAHAHA. You haven't been to a Washington State game. Cougs were bad this year and the Seahawks were bad this year. The crowd in Seattle was electric all season. The crowd in Pullman was crap.

I agree its like a ghost town anymore



I voted college football just because of the atmosphere, plays, and the school spirit unlike the No Fun League.

 

[DaaBoTownSox]

Which do you prefer? Personally, I like the NFL better. More weeks, more great players, and I can watch them all with NFL Sunday Ticket. If I watched every single college football game, I'd be a fat-ass couch potato. While the NFL doesn't have the upsets that college does, there are still a good number of great games. But the biggest reason I like the NFL better is because of the playoffs. The playoffs are fun, and the Super Bowl is the greatest sporting event that I'll ever watch. I hate the BCS, to be honest. Since I'm a fan of Indiana, who will never make a major bowl game anyway, I want to see a playoff in college. That would be intense.

My vote still goes with the NFL.

For me, it's CFB. It just has more action & more excitement.

 

[Realist]

i guess it just depends on where you live. In the South, college football is king. In the north its pretty balanced. And the West is all about NFL

Very True. At least your South statement.

 

[steeljake]

how is this a debate at all?

college has a million teams and only a few are good, no playoff system and the overall speed is just slow as hell. the nfl has 32 teams (well 30 since oakland and cleveland will never win shit) capable of winning it all every year an the best athletes in the world.

 

[Vinsane]

(well 30 since oakland and cleveland will never win shit)

:smh:

The argument is push for me, I like both equally.